IR-Illuminator difference between LED vs Laser

IR illuminators (infrared illuminators) are devices that emit infrared (IR) light, a type of light invisible to the human eye but visible to night vision devices and other IR-sensitive equipment. They are commonly used in applications such as surveillance systems, military operations, hunting, and night vision cameras.

Types of IR illuminators: LED and Laser


1. LED IR Illuminators:


• Operation: Based on light-emitting diodes (LEDs) that generate infrared light.


• Advantages:


• Wide and diffuse light beam, ideal for illuminating larger areas.


• Less expensive and energy-efficient.


• Longer lifespan due to robust construction.


• Disadvantages:


• Limited range, typically a few dozen meters.


• Lower intensity, making it less effective over long distances.


2. Laser IR Illuminators:


• Operation: Uses a laser diode to produce a concentrated beam of infrared light.


• Advantages:


• Narrow, focused light beam, allowing for a much greater range (often hundreds of meters).


• Higher intensity, providing sharper and clearer images at long distances.


• Disadvantages:


• More expensive than LED variants.


• Risk of “overexposure” or hotspots at short distances due to the concentrated beam.


• Greater risk of damage to equipment or eyes if not used properly.


Choosing the right illuminator:


• For wide areas (e.g., a parking lot): Choose an LED IR illuminator.


• For focused, long-distance applications (e.g., observation over hundreds of meters): Choose a Laser IR illuminator.

Pay attention to safety guidelines, especially with laser illuminators, as powerful lasers can be harmful to the human eye.


The wavelength of LED and laser IR illuminators typically falls within the infrared (IR) spectrum, which ranges from about 700 nm (near-infrared)
to 1 mm (far-infrared).
The specific wavelength used depends on the application and the type of device.
Here’s an overview:





LED IR Illuminators


• Common Wavelengths:


• 850 nm:


• Most commonly used wavelength for IR LED illuminators.


Produces a faint red glow visible to the human eye when the illuminator is operating.


• Suitable for general surveillance and night vision systems.


• 940 nm:


• Completely invisible to the human eye.


• Often used for covert surveillance.


• Less efficient than 850 nm (requires more power for the same illumination level).





Laser IR Illuminators


• Common Wavelengths:


• 808 nm, 850 nm, or 940 nm:


• Similar to LED illuminators but with much higher intensity and focus.


• 808 nm lasers are more common for industrial or military applications.


• 850 nm and 940 nm lasers are used for surveillance and long-distance illumination.


• Lasers can also be tuned to other wavelengths depending on the specific application or need for precision targeting.





Key Differences Between LED and Laser Wavelengths:


• LEDs emit a broader spectrum of wavelengths centered around a specific value (e.g., 850 nm ± 20 nm), resulting in a diffuse light.


• Lasers emit a highly focused, single wavelength (monochromatic light), which makes them more precise and efficient for long-range applications.





Wavelength Selection by Application:


• 850 nm: General purpose, good visibility with most night vision devices.


• 940 nm: Covert applications, though less effective for long distances due to lower sensitivity of most sensors at this wavelength.


• 808 nm or other custom wavelengths: Specialized military, industrial, or scientific uses.
 
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IR illuminators (infrared illuminators) are devices that emit infrared (IR) light, a type of light invisible to the human eye but visible to night vision devices, thermal cameras, and other IR-sensitive equipment. They are commonly used in applications such as surveillance systems, military operations, hunting, and night vision cameras…
@PhaseShifter I’m not aware of any thermal devices or cameras that utilize infrared light. Is this a typo? If not, please link an example or two of what you’re referring to.
 
For night vision device use:
So for rats shooting in close range, it seems to me the LED-illumination (850 nm) will warn the basterds as soon they sighted a red glare?
Is a 940nm more suitable for rodents!?

Who can advice on this subject?

thanks in advance
@PhaseShifter The advantage of 940nm is it being higher on the spectrum and purportedly invisible to most animals we’re trying to hunt. The trade off is that its range is shorter than the 850nm IR. Whether or not rats can see 850, I cannot say. However, I’ve observed other animals that can. If in doubt use a higher wavelength of infrared. Just be sure that your chosen wavelength is compatible with your night-vision device.
 
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The name “Thermal” is in this topic, but in this topic only the nightvision that enhances visual is subject.
This still needs the IR spectrum to calculate an image visible to eyes. The nightvision i ordered has additional IR-led light buitl in, to emmit extra light to the subject pointing at.
That LED has 850nm for close range shooting

text changed on good readings of Ezana4CE (thnx)
 
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Thermal is not in this topic, only nightvision that enhances visual, but still needs the IR spectrum to calculate an image visible
to eyes. The nightvision i ordered has additional IR-led light buitl in, to emmit extra light to the subject pointing at.
That LED had 850nm for close range shooting
@PhaseShifter Reading your initial post I quoted exactly where you mentioned thermal cameras. Unless you cut/copy and pasted your information, you ought to recall what you just typed.
 
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@PhaseShifter Reading your initial post I quoted exactly where you mentioned thermal cameras. Unless you cut and pasted your information, you ought to recall what you just typed.
Sorry for that! i know what you mean Ezana4CE, i was not clear with that piece of text (Dutch native language), but overall, what i like to put down here is the difference between 850 and 940nm is stated in the posting.
 
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Sorry for that! i know what you mean Ezana4CE, i was not clear with that piece of text (Dutch native language), but overall, what i like to put down here is the difference between 850 and 940nm is stated in the posting.
@PhaseShifter I’m somewhat familiar with the technology and responded accordingly in my second post. I have a couple of rifle-mounted night vision units and have hunted larger animals with them. All of mine are 850nm. My trail cameras as well. The trail camera footage presents clear evidence that the animals either see the light or hear the camera and light being triggered, or both.
 
@Ezana4CE
thanks for your input on this topic!
What would be your advice on shooting rats in a barn at night!?
@PhaseShifter I have little to suggest based upon experience besides: be mindful of what’s behind your target (domestic animals, equipment, feeders, water lines, lights, windows, walls, etc), use smaller calibers (.177, .20, or .22) and tune your rifle to low power. Maybe 14 FPE or less. If pesting around farm animals, especially poultry, consider using non-lead projectiles. Other than that, I don’t know because I haven’t pested rats in a building around farm animals. When I was considering doing so, the aforementioned suggestions are elements that I took into consideration.
 
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@PhaseShifter I have little to suggest based upon experience besides: be mindful of what’s behind your target (domestic animals, equipment, feeders, water lines, lights, windows, walls, etc), use smaller calibers (.177, .20, or .22) and tube your rifle to low power. Maybe 14 FPE or less. If pesting around farm animals, especially poultry, consider using non-lead projectiles. Other than that, I don’t know because I haven’t pested rats in a building around farm animals. When I was considering doing so, the aforementioned suggestions are elements that I took into consideration.
Thanks for pointing out these items 👍
 
Megaorei NK007+ 850nm
My friend just tried that camera, and it was a absolute disaster, i also meddled with it and it was FAR from what i expected.
First of all, up close ( 25 M ) the on board laser emitter completely blinded the camera and there is no way of turning it off, so in the end we disconnected it.
It just burn thru its battery
 
My friend just tried that camera, and it was a absolute disaster, i also meddled with it and it was FAR from what i expected.
First of all, up close ( 25 M ) the on board laser emitter completely blinded the camera and there is no way of turning it off, so in the end we disconnected it.
It just burn thru its battery
As i read you had the one with the Laser: that’s in the 940nm region wavelength, the statement on the Megaorei is that the us is particularly for the 100 till 200 meters shooting