Is .20 Dead?
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i keep hoping some shops will get a selection in .20 cal soon but starting to wonder.
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Define "extra loop". Meaning loopiness due to the heavier weight of a .20 cal pellet vs a .177 in the HW30/R7 platform??
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After much consideration, I'm going to be selling off a few rifles. One of them is my tuned HW97 .20 cal.
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Yes, the HW30S (IMO) has the right amount of power for lighter pellets (JSB/AA 7.33) - .20 & .22 are too much.
Unless you want to hunt - the .177 has the advantage. If you want to hunt - take headshots only - this gun has ample accuracy out to 30 yards..
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are there any heavy pellets for the .20 other than the JSB 13.? grain.
i have not had much luck finding any kind of selection for .20 cal
i have not had much luck finding any kind of selection for .20 cal
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H&N makes the FIELD TARGET TROPHY and BARACUDA
JSB the Exact and exact heavy
Those 4 pellets generally shoot very well.
Its the times we're in ... similar to the .22 RF shortage a few years ago FOLKS ARE HORDING !!!
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They're R7's, but I own both .177 and .20 so yep, I can easily compare them any time I want to...lol. Already well aware my R7 .20 is very accurate out to 30 yards and works very well for either pesting or targets. Accurate with both the FTT's and JSB 13.73's.
Numbers for the R7 .20:
-H&N FTT's: Average 554, ES 11, SD 3, 7.78 fpe
-JSB Exact: Average 497, ES 20, SD 6, 7.53 fpe
First targets shot after I got it sighted in at 20 yards, FTT's in the top 2 targets, JSB's in the bottom 2:
More than enough with either pellet and very well accurate enough for whacking squirrels out to the 30 yards I have for shooting and I did that at the time with only one good arm and not the one I normally shoot with. Story on it all is posted here if you get bored:
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You may want to call first but Trenier shows the JSB Heavy 15.89gr pellets in stock:
JSB Exact Heavy .20 cal. Pellets, 15.89 Grains, Domed | Trenier Airguns
JSB Exact Heavy .20 cal., 15.89 Grains, Domed, 500ct, precision airgun ammunition for your shooting needs. Whether you shoot from an air rifle or pistol, 4.5mm, 5.0mm, 5.5mm caliber or larger, outdoors or indoors, from paper to knock down targets, from 10 to 100 meters, JSB offers you a wide...
www.trenierairguns.com .20 Caliber Pellets
Selling the following pellets. - JSB standard 13.73 grain, 500 count sealed tins. 2 available. $45 shipped.
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i seen the add for the JSB 13's in the Classifieds Gate and although i might get with the seller i do have some of those on hand.
i am just suprised so may shops are out of stock or lacking any kind of selection.
i am just suprised so may shops are out of stock or lacking any kind of selection.
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So what exactly is it you're wanting? Simple easier availability of the 4 kinds that are made or companies to make more than those 4 so there are more choices?? There may be a 5th if Predator comes back with their .20 cal Polymags but I haven't seen anything yet about them.
That trick has already been tried with emails sent to various pellet makers. Some like Crosman never bothered to reply, H&N and JSB at least replied to say what they made was all they planned to and some of the new makers coming on the market were non committal and only said they'd take it under consideration.
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well i would like to be able to go to one of the shops say like pyramyd or AOA and when i order something be able to get pellets. and i am wundering what all is put or has been out for diffferant pellets i my not know of.
seems lie theres enough .20 cal guns out that pellets should be stocked. but i guess the pandemic is to blame?
seems lie theres enough .20 cal guns out that pellets should be stocked. but i guess the pandemic is to blame?
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maybe it is profit , why take time from the machines to make a low mover pellet when the machine makes fast moving / more profit in .177/.22 ? Another side to this is the stores have to order .20 the companies do not just send product .
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I have a .20 cal. Hw97k blue lam,
Paul Watts tuned. The 97k has upper end pcp accuracy. It's a proven hunter of ground squirrels.
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i am sure profet is a big factor but you would think if folks are asking they are missing sales?
dont know?
just seems to me theres a fair number of folks shoot .20 cal
if i was to pick up a new gun today it would probably be in .22 just because pellets are reader avaliable?
i have been looking at a new gun and was looking at .30 cal but not being able to get .20's that last few times i went to order has brought me to the thought of just stay in the .22 and them no worries?
i dont know.
dont know?
just seems to me theres a fair number of folks shoot .20 cal
if i was to pick up a new gun today it would probably be in .22 just because pellets are reader avaliable?
i have been looking at a new gun and was looking at .30 cal but not being able to get .20's that last few times i went to order has brought me to the thought of just stay in the .22 and them no worries?
i dont know.
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i am not sure why .20 is hard to get other than what i just stated, (follow the money ).20 was the Benjamin Sheridan caliber and before that .20 round lead balls .
time is money and lets say it takes 4 hours to change a machine from .22 to .20 then 4 hours to change back to .22 that is a full day lost .
time is money and lets say it takes 4 hours to change a machine from .22 to .20 then 4 hours to change back to .22 that is a full day lost .
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it could be as simple as the manufactors just running the more popluar pellets no clue.
but i do beleave theres a lot of old sharidians as well as others out there using .20
but i do beleave theres a lot of old sharidians as well as others out there using .20
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Yes, this is why Weihrauch doesn't make as many .20 caliber barrels - cheaper on the margin to mass produce .177 and .22 barrels than turn out a few .20 caliber. In the 20th century Mass Production significantly lowered costs for durable goods ..... making and selling less costs more - business 101.
Pellets are the same - unfortunately, it's about profitability.
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.20 cal polymags are only produced in one run per year and only to meet specific quanities pre-ordered.
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