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Is a used rifle supposed to be perfect. If stated it does not have problems?
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Every night I hope and pray A dream buyer will come my way
A gun to hold in my arms
And know the magic of her charms
- Bobby Darin
Speaking of PayPal and airguns I remember a thread where guys were saying PayPal don’t cover airguns. Well my little situation proves that they do! I even told them it was a pellet *rifle*. So there you go PayPal is not anti-airgun. Don’t say gun though, rifle has a less negative connotation
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This is why I don’t sell on here anymore, you can list all the imperfections on a used item and someone will still cry and want their money back.. not worth the aggravation anymore I just keep everything I buy now..
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I always state whether the rifle was used as a utility piece in the field or if its a show piece, I ask buyers multiple times if they have any questions. Major imperfections should be stated otherwise but , there are a ton of "Collectors" here on agn who don't understand some of us use them as tools, but it does seem a lot was hidden or not discussed here , shame on the seller... it should be disclosed.
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I did nothing to this rifle other than shoot it as i got it used myself. I like how the complainer is always the winner. I gave the refund, i did not wait for paypal to bring a judgement. I just want my rifle back after being sold in a normal manner.
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I've not sold anything on here but with over 500 positive deals with 0 negatives on another shooting platform, I've learned a few things, I guess. Always take pictures of any imperfections and let the buyer know exactly what he's getting before he gets it. I put a greater value on my reputation than the extra 50 - 75 bucks I might make by not disclosing pertinent information.
Secondly, I agree with the gentleman that said starting a public thread might not be the best way to hash this out.
Secondly, I agree with the gentleman that said starting a public thread might not be the best way to hash this out.
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Based only on your original listing, it seems impossible to have an informed opinion without actually seeing the rifle or having better photos. The price seems fair for a used S510, and one at which I would expect to see signs of normal wear and tear. Since there was no disclosure of significant flaws, I would expect to see none. Descriptions of used items are always open for interpretation, and we don't all see things the same. Regardless of whom I might believe was more in the right, I think you did the right thing to refund the buyer's money. Whether the complaint is reasonable or not, if the buyer isn't satisfied, then IMO it's not worth the energy to argue the point. Maybe something of value was learned by both parties.
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Only he didn't refund the buyer' s money, Paypal did after apparently the op laughed at the buyer' s request for a refund.
Low price or not, that is irrelevant. Buyer asked if " anything " was wrong with the rifle, I would consider gauges in the air tube and sharpie cover ups to qualify as " something ".
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Gouge
Painted over blued air tube. Still smells like paint! Now I know why you took an extra day to ship. Gotta let that spray paint dry
Oops some paint dripped on the receiver
What used rifle isn’t complete without a little sharpie
Now I can accept a little wear and tear. As there are more small marks that are negligible. But the gouge and paint job should’ve been disclosed.
Painted over blued air tube. Still smells like paint! Now I know why you took an extra day to ship. Gotta let that spray paint dry
Oops some paint dripped on the receiver
What used rifle isn’t complete without a little sharpie
Now I can accept a little wear and tear. As there are more small marks that are negligible. But the gouge and paint job should’ve been disclosed.
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I bought used, it was in good shape but not perfect.
Caveat emptor: let the buyer beware. That's Latin, boys and girls, this issue predates modern times and as such, unless new, an item will will carry with it, disappointment.
Caveat emptor: let the buyer beware. That's Latin, boys and girls, this issue predates modern times and as such, unless new, an item will will carry with it, disappointment.
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I almost bought this item , the pictures looked good to me . i could have drove and picked it up also . AND i would have accepted the tiny flaws for that price .
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It has never changed from the first time you saw it. It will never be for sale again, do not worry. If he wanted more pictures i would have gladly gave them. I gave as much for the bare rifle as he paid for the package.
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Never been to a show. If it is full of people from this forum, i will pass. I am dome with it all once i get my rifle back.
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There was a time I said this too, then I had to do a little reflecting on myself and see how I was acting , this was early on in my stay here at AGN, I am an abrasive person and its something I've been working on but when I looked at the bigger picture I realized it wasn't everyone else that was the problem it was the common denominator which was me. The airgun community like any other community has its assholes but having been in and still being in many hobbies, the airgun community ( at least here on AGN ) has less of these buttholes than other hobbies. After seeing those pictures I would have been upset as well upon receiving the rifle. Learn from it.
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I have a S510 . just measured the thread cover @ apx. 1/2 inch long real life size.
in the picture on my screen the thread cover is 2 inches long which makes the gouge 1.5 inch long IN THIS SCREEN SHOT.
Real life the measurement would be just under 3/8 inch gouge . Pictures can be enlarged to look worse than real life size
in the picture on my screen the thread cover is 2 inches long which makes the gouge 1.5 inch long IN THIS SCREEN SHOT.
Real life the measurement would be just under 3/8 inch gouge . Pictures can be enlarged to look worse than real life size
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Scotay42 think of ALL the fun times you have had here on AGN , don't give up on us for this one insindent .
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I have sold hundreds of thousand dollar bows and have never been treated like this over one.
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Fact 1: Seller claims he didn't paint the airtube, buyer feels confident it was recently painted.
Fact 2: The gouge SHOULD have a close up included in the sale pic considering the severity...
Fact 3: Air tube being of a different finish than factory is indisputable, and should of been disclosed as original pictures don't clearly show this. Anyone famliar with s510's know they are blued steel. I had to really zoom into his photos to get a vague idea that the airtube did not still have its original blued finish.
If you can't take this critique, you really shouldn't sell more used items, regardless of your history. Not sure why you're selling so many airguns anyways seeing your post history, if you have such experience you should know things can go sour when selling a used gun with so much history.
Fact 2: The gouge SHOULD have a close up included in the sale pic considering the severity...
Fact 3: Air tube being of a different finish than factory is indisputable, and should of been disclosed as original pictures don't clearly show this. Anyone famliar with s510's know they are blued steel. I had to really zoom into his photos to get a vague idea that the airtube did not still have its original blued finish.
If you can't take this critique, you really shouldn't sell more used items, regardless of your history. Not sure why you're selling so many airguns anyways seeing your post history, if you have such experience you should know things can go sour when selling a used gun with so much history.
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