Is airgun interest going away?

Naw we can sling lead, just can't use it in shotguns apparently. Now to buy ammo you need your I.D and permit. I have zero idea what happens if you try to buy a case. Of course it's illegal to go to AZ or NV or OR and buy some and bring it in, big brother Nuisance has to make sure you don't have too much. I miss ordering on line and watching the UPS guy struggling with cases.
I used to live there.. near Yosemite. and I used to take a 22lr rifle when I went to visit friends, it's been many years since.. but used to target shoot for fun.. well if I read the law correct if I did that now, locked case and unloaded..if still get in trouble if stopped for importing the box of ammo.. even just 50 rounds.. and of course I don't live in California so I wouldn't pass the check to buy ammo because you have to have one registered in the caliber and a current address.. at least that's what I was told.. so I never take anything with me although I thought about one of my PCP guns but then I didn't know if lead was totally outlawed there now..
thank you for the info as I have family down there and go now and then..
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I used to live there.. near Yosemite. and I used to take a 22lr rifle when I went to visit friends, it's been many years since.. but used to target shoot for fun.. well if I read the law correct if I did that now, locked case and unloaded..if still get in trouble if stopped for importing the box of ammo.. even just 50 rounds.. and of course I don't live in California so I wouldn't pass the check to buy ammo because you have to have one registered in the caliber and a current address.. at least that's what I was told.. so I never take anything with me although I thought about one of my PCP guns but then I didn't know if lead was totally outlawed there now..
thank you for the info as I have family down there and go now and then..
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I'm going to guess that lead on public lands is a no-no, I shoot on private property, the local public range doesn't stop lead. As for bringing it into the state, if one isn't stupid has a truck load or if you just jumped across the border to Reno and picked up some then hopped back there's an issue but, just driving across meh, it's only the Ag station. Sadly the last time I was out of the prison I flew so that blows bringing back anything. I almost had to fly private in that case....what ever my rolling bag would carry. FGN.
 
Lost my interest just shooting paper and coming from firearms the sticker shock of the price of PCP's is what keeps new people away
Dang PCP does mean pay continue paying vs springers but a guy starting don't need a 2500$ edgun ..lol

He could hit a hatsan sale or referb PCP deal and get going nicely backyard fun cheap like a hatsan flash for $129. At44 at 249 .. the flash being good hand pump friendly go Amazon $40 phand pump and Walmart coho .22 at $6.50
He be blasting everything in his back yard smiling... ( Opinion) ..lol
 
I’ve been shooting powder burners for years. Mainly hunting. I’ve always had a cheap pump up pellet gun.
But when I rediscovered pellet guns I hit the PCP pretty hard at first.
What stopped my trip any further down that rabbit hole. Was shooting a single shot springer
For me there is something Zen about shooting one.
Cock it, load it, latch it, aim breathe and squeeze.
Love it!

So springers are holding my interest now.
 
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I started selling PCPs almost 2 years ago and I notice this year has been quite the decline in interest. My existing customers love them but I am really struggling to get new people interested more than ever. I am competetive with online pricing at a local level and even fix peoples gun for free and educate them on how to use and work on everything but interest has just about ground to a halt. I don't get it. I love PCP's.
Interest for me has gone up. I'll throw some love your way. I am in need of something simple right now, just pellets, but if you sell them I will buy a couple boxes of tins of the .30 JSBs and a few individual boxes of .30 slugs. I am sorry business isn't kicking butt for you this year. It has to be the world holding their breath for that thing that I am definitely not talking about that never happens in November.
 
People need to see airguns to get interested in them. Most people can’t shoot firearms in the backyard but they can shoot airguns or even in the house or garage. So they don’t take them to the gun range with them for other shooters to see or try. How many of us in the past were at the range and someone shooting a gun that peaked our interest. Soon your talking to the owner and they offered to let you try it. Next you know you own one. Waiting for people to walk into a airgun shop as the way to grow the sport will be a slow go. Every airgun shop owner I have met bends over backwards to build the sport but it can’t all be on them to do it. Everyone one on this forum need to be introducing people to airguns. And not to disparage the shooter that can only afford a $150 big box store gun. The big shoots like the Northeast Classic, Pyramid Air Cup, RMAC are fantastic displays of shooting skill and equipment but beyond the reach of many shooters. Trying to get local shoots at simple paper and novelty targets started will help grow the sport.
I was over at the Ouachita Parish sheriffs range last week and was talking to one of the deputy sheriff range officers. He had never seen one of the high end air guns, so I went back to my truck and brought out a couple of FWB 65's and a HW353 with an Anschutz rear. He wanted to try one of the pistols so I showed him how to cock and load, and impressed upon him the need to not fire it without a pellet in the chamber. I then handed him a tin of match watcutters and said go to it. He came back about ten minutes later grinning.
 
I'm going to guess that lead on public lands is a no-no, I shoot on private property, the local public range doesn't stop lead. As for bringing it into the state, if one isn't stupid has a truck load or if you just jumped across the border to Reno and picked up some then hopped back there's an issue but, just driving across meh, it's only the Ag station. Sadly the last time I was out of the prison I flew so that blows bringing back anything. I almost had to fly private in that case....what ever my rolling bag would carry. FGN.
ag station doesn't ask and for at least 6 months the only one's that have to stop are the commercial trucks.. glad I don't have to deal with them.. hauling a load of cows I got stuck there for a hour before they got the vet on the phone to verify,I don't know what.. that was one long day.. loaded early morning and got unloaded in the mountains near Sacramento around midnight..I couldn't do those long hours anymore.
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I’ve been shooting powder burners for years. Mainly hunting. I’ve always had a cheap pump up pellet gun.
But when I rediscovered pellet guns I hit the PCP pretty hard at first.
What stopped my trip any further down that rabbit hole. Was shooting a single shot springer
For me there is something Zen about shooting one.
Cock it, load it, latch it, aim breathe and squeeze.
Love it!

So springers are holding my interest now.
I loved my Beeman P1 and rws Diana 48
Mark
 
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by the time you figure gun and air..22lr is close to the same price.. but I enjoy the quiet..
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also it doesn't matter what I shoot where I live.. could shoot anything without a problem.. but again the quiet.. hearing the pellet hit steel..
I do really wish PCP had cowboy guns.. lever action and single six.. just got into airforce Condor for long distance shooting.. figure it is about as close to a air Sharp's as it will get.
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When I mention Airguns to my friends they laugh it off. I always think to myself. “Oh boy if only you knew…mwahahahahah. I myself am
New to airgunning and the cost of everything all together is what is holding me back. I’m about to spend what I consider a load of money on something that is only considered a budget gun lol.
 
I think the biggest part is the air.. I got the Omega trail charger 8 years ago and it has worked great..
but if something happens with it then well it gets expensive to shoot again..
that's a good thing about high quality springers..gun and tin of pellets..
but I really like shooting them all.. enjoying the Condor SS in 22 caliber currently.
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Price sells. In a down market you have to slim your profit margins to increase interest and sales.
I disagree, sales sells. Don't listen to people who want stuff for free. You are just competing in a market where a LOT of competitors offer a lot of value. You're being a good guy in a good guy market. You need to complete some exercises based on the question you asked and the way you asked it.

Identify competitors your size and one size up and ask yourself how you can separate your business from them. AoA is not the cheapest place to buy things. I paid $90 for and AoA bean bag. I barely even like this shooting bag but my budget for bags is exhausted and I am not buying a MUCH better one even if it only costs me $1.
AoA got ALL my money for the subject of shooting bags for a LONG time. You aren't AoA, I get it. They do a lot of things right but even that isn't enough. Most importantly, they are a tough act to follow. If AoA is about to do something and you are at or are almost to their level, you'd better pay attention and make sure you are equally on point to make a change. That change can be in the same or a competing direction. Both moving with and against your same level of competitor is fine but if you don't at least slide when they pivot you are going to get dunked on.

Stay in the fight. Thinking too much is like putting the world on pause and watching your after action videos. Basically that is what lotion and tissue are for. But your bills don't pause do they? Make sure you know when you are working IN your business and when you are working ON your business. Working IN your business something like fixing and selling air rifles, etc.
Working ON your business is like making a new logo or creating a new flier.
Exercise two.
Write down your daily activities in real time for a week. Carry around a note pad and a watch that beeps every 15 min. When it goes off, what were you doing? Write it down. What you will find is that almost ALL your time was spent, I am walking over to the bench to.... I am driving to.... I am emailing.... and all kinds of transitional activities. Be aware of them and work the rest of your life to eliminate them.
Then organize all non-transitional activities on Red, Yellow, and Green sticky notes. Green are activities that lead to money now, like showing an airgun to a customer at the counter. Yellow is banging out a quick fix on a customer's gun or talking to me on the phone and helping me be happy with my next purchase. Red is paying bills, returning BS emails, and even reading this message. Following the instructions in this message, however, is Yellow.

Good luck my friend, we don't don't know each other, but if I were brave enough to take apart my air rifle you'd be talking to a competitor. That is how much I believe that you are selling the best product possible at the best time to sell it and you are in a better position to do so than most. Imagine being an FFL SOT/class 3 dealer right now. You sell guns with no government oversight or additional taxes for your specific business because they don't burn powder.

One more thing just to kick a good horse. AoA's location, were it across the street in any direction, would get arrested for shooting their pellet guns. They are in the middle of the city. Are you in urban or suburbia? AoA has Karen's calling for shooting "guns" about twice a week. They have disadvantages existential to their success and yet thrive. They have at least one pro-shooter working there and about 4 or 5 other people that could absolutely be pro shooters if they wanted to be. It is not cheap to be AoA.

Think about this: AoA, whether they want to admit it or not, need my $50 tin of pellets sale more than you do!

Please read the book S.P.I.N. Selling and Managing Major Sales by Neil Rackham and the Undoing Project by Michael Lewis. This will help you broaden your base of questions you are asking about your business, your market and your customers and the trends they follow. This will help you identify, satisfy and retain the customers that are ready to be somebody's best client. If you really can't read them, two of them are on Audible but listen to them like you are in class, print out the included PDF and do the exercises. "Lead for God's Sake" is extra credit. Decent book, ties a lot of loose ends together. IDK, for me it was a feel good book. However, a lot of really, really rich people that agree with me on the rest of this list, disagree with how I prioritize the "Lead" book. Even still, everyone I know would tell you to read it last. It is the ribbon on top.

Good luck. Message me directly when you have something cool you are excited about selling. I love air gunning, I am already excited about buying and I would feel like a bad a88 if you messaged ME first with something cool for everyone a day before you put an ad out to all. Find more of me that fit better with you.
 
When I mention Airguns to my friends they laugh it off. I always think to myself. “Oh boy if only you knew…mwahahahahah. I myself am
New to airgunning and the cost of everything all together is what is holding me back. I’m about to spend what I consider a load of money on something that is only considered a budget gun lol.
I don't mean for life to be this way, at all. But when I say I shoot pellet guns people get MORE weirded out like, "Oh My Gaht, he shoots things I don't even understand!" I have all kinds of real guns, never talk about which specifically because those are tools to fix a very, very bad day that I will do my best to stay alive in but wish I could have avoided. On the other hand, Pellet guns are 100% offensive and the predator twinkle shines in my eye like a diamond in the sky do you like crystal gel! (Angela Johnson - Nail Salon bit)
 
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It is a very weird thing. Introduce a "gun guy" to a good PCP and they seem really interested but never move on it. It's like they're thinking, "well that's a viable option, but they haven't banned firearms yet, so screw it."
Yeah, this is close to what I think but you have to bridge the gap for them.
This isn't an alternative to a real gun, this is a real gun that does one tiny thing that your "real gun" does. Only it does it much better in a very small space and in a very specific way. Take a look at .223 and .308 ballistics, have you ever noticed that they are identical out to 400 yards? Have you ever looked at a ballistic table before? Wait... .No??!! Just sit on your hands whille I .... just Hold on....

Oh, ehem, oh yoouuuu-whooo, mister Spartans...? sorry to bother you gentlemen, but if I might ask, what is your profession?

You see old friend, you brought more weapons but I brought more shooters than you did. Cute 6'5 AR by the way. Did you get that to match the scope ring imprint around your eyeball? It matches your season I don't care what all the other boys say. I'll have your mom hold your balls you just go worry about making friends today, caio!

Try that method. Ridicule moves men more than any other method. The idea that you are going to out shoot me at 1,000 yards is so silly that if you didn't eat everyone's nuts in this whole bar already then I should have rocky mountain oysters coming out of my nose from laughing so hard. And no I haven't shot powder, nor have I shot past 200 yards, in the last 10 years. You sir, are F'd in the A. Please put money on it.

This is the actual truth about air rifles.
 
When I mention Airguns to my friends they laugh it off. I always think to myself. “Oh boy if only you knew…mwahahahahah. I myself am
New to airgunning and the cost of everything all together is what is holding me back. I’m about to spend what I consider a load of money on something that is only considered a budget gun lol.
Well, I've found that PCPs make me a better shot, at least a rifle, pistols I'm still shaking so meh. Added a stock to my Tequila and I've got a SBR with a suppressor FU Alphabet org and Gov. Newsom. At 24x I've learned to shoot when my heart rests, luckily I have a slow heart beat 60bpm. Told my Doc I was shooting for zero but he said that wasn't a good idea for some reason.
 
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