I think the King was about the extra power. I would like to see manufacturers stick to pellet gun power, but the trend seems to be equaling 22 LR power.
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The FX crown the Daystate Huntsman/revere AIR ARMS S500/510, Brocock sniper xr are cornerstone air guns.Especially considering the added power is unwanted for me, there are a lot of detracting factors with this gun. The Crown is already a wide gun.
I think there were a number of things done with the crown that make it very hard to improve on. Sure, you can improve power. Looks, ergonomics, balance, light weight, accuracy? Not to mention, the design is relatively simple, and it is easy to work on. And then add to it that FX QC is down from where it used to be....
And I do much prefer the old stocks.
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RAWs as well, though, to my knowledge they are a bit heavier. Probably much like the AAsThe FX crown the Daystate Huntsman/revere AIR ARMS S500/510, Brocock sniper xr are cornerstone air guns.
The Panthera, dynamic, and king to me, are purpose built and are a step forward in performance and design. That being said, give me one of the fore mentioned offerings and I'm good.
I'm guessing in terms of power? Or is it also more efficient at the higher power levels? If accuracy is in question. I would struggle greatly and likely may never succeed at getting a gun to shoot MORE accurately than my crown. I could probably get a few to shoot just as good or close, but that would still be a real struggle. I've had a number of barrels on mine. Still have 5. Never an issue with any of them. But the reinforced 500mm i have is by far the least tune sensitive or ammo picky, including various weights and designs of slugs, that I've ever had the pleasure of using. 700mm is measured as being the most accurate. Though tuning was no easy task. Sub 1/2 moa. Never measured but I know holes touching at 100 is sub 1/2 moa honestly did not care to measure or post photos cause the accuracy I had got out of that setup was frankly absurd. Like if I saw someone post that up, I would think they shot it at 40 not 100. In any case I've never cared much for groups. Generally, if I shoot the thing. I know how accurate it is. And if it's not, I've got a problem. If it is, I'm going to be out shooting it.I have a crown and a dynamic. The dynamic outperforms the crown any day.
So they have a beer can underneath the CF?Bottle is cf wrapped aluminum. We know they expand and contract. I fit the band when the tank is around 220bar, (generally fill to 230bar max) and don't wrench it down very much at all because I am aware of this. Whatever deformation if any is occurring inside the bottle I doubt is enough to induce any substantial weak points. Now if someone were to wrench it down tight at lower pressure then proceed to fill it, the band could potentially be exerting a LOT of force on the bottle. Which could be concerning.
So essentially, the band was keeping a portion of the bottle from expanding because of how it was fit.
Would be interesting to see something like this tested to failure if it is possible.
That said, all of the other concerns I've ever heard were about the forces exerted on the receiver, bottle neck, or adaptor.
Wasn't there a sound of the CF breaking? Crackling?I had a bottle clamp on a gun then had an opportunity to remove the bottle and valve and you could see right where the clamp was inside the bottle it bent the aluminum
I get that part, it's just hard to imagine the clamp bending the tube for the amount of pressure they can take. Maybe the wrong size clamp was used?View attachment 433639
It expands and contracts with pressure changes. The whole thing does. And is designed to. I'm no engineer, but that's how it functions.
No noise right clamp. I don’t know if it was over a period of time or what no way to tell but it had above reg pressure when installed and I don’t know exactly what pressureI get that part, it's just hard to imagine the clamp bending the tube for the amount of pressure they can take. Maybe the wrong size clamp was used?
That's a little disappointing. You should be able to run the darn things over.No noise right clamp. I don’t know if it was over a period of time or what no way to tell but it had above reg pressure when installed and I don’t know exactly what pressure
Wa it a 300bar or 250bar bottle.No noise right clamp. I don’t know if it was over a period of time or what no way to tell but it had above reg pressure when installed and I don’t know exactly what pressure
No, the clamp if clamped hard enough would induce exponential amounts of force as the cylinder expands outward under more pressure. So even if installed at relatively normal clamping force at lower pressure, once the bottle is filled more, the clmaping force would go up drastically because the cylinder would normally no longer be as small as it was initially.I get that part, it's just hard to imagine the clamp bending the tube for the amount of pressure they can take. Maybe the wrong size clamp was used?
It would be interesting to measure the od with a caliber and the different fill pressures. I'm sure a hot fill will cause it to expand more. Maybe the 300bar tank is less prone to this?No, the clamp if clamped hard enough would induce exponential amounts of force as the cylinder expands outward under more pressure. So even if installed at relatively normal clamping force at lower pressure, once the bottle is filled more, the clmaping force would go up drastically because the cylinder would normally no longer be as small as it was initially.