It means "powder burner". It's standard reference on these forums to real firearms. There are a few others which you'll pick up on as you post more.Upvote 0
Is there a quality semiauto pistol?
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It means "powder burner". It's standard reference on these forums to real firearms. There are a few others which you'll pick up on as you post more.I had been looking around and found that expression out. I figured there had to be an expression for what I wanted to call "real guns" but considering as i step up into the better realms of air guns some are as powerful and many are more accurate than my PBs are and the high end air guns being recommended cost way more than i have spent on a PB.
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Regarding accuracy, yeah, (caveat (for me anyway..))within 100 yards) my higher end airguns outshoot anything I own that uses gunpowder except for an steel epoxy bedded M-14 with match barrel and trigger. As far as match grade rifles in the service rifle category you're looking at similar costs to a high end FX, Edgun Leshiy, Daystate, etc.
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I have a CZ 22 with less than $1k invested shoots beyond my skills. I wanted the Vudoo I tried in a class, so a $2 k airgun does not look bad.
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I could never find a decent semi-auto pistol for under $500. I purchased the 1701p and use it in my basement. 50 shots per fill with a 10 inch LW barrel. Very accurate and a nice trigger. I have it set to eight ounces and the break is crisp.
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I think best thing for her is a good compromise. Something she can still have fun with. Having a semi - auto is what we all wish when we start. But after we get that, at least for those of us who actually did, the accuracy in the end was not enough. Find something accurate and has either a magazine or is easy to load. She will be more happy with the accuracy over the single sticky point, the semi-auto.
Maybe find a semi-auto for her to try to prove the point. It maybe fun at first but hitting what you aim at is the goal in the end.
Allen
Maybe find a semi-auto for her to try to prove the point. It maybe fun at first but hitting what you aim at is the goal in the end.
Allen
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Try the crosman vigilante/.357. Adjustable rear sights. Extra mags are cheap. And with pellets very accurate.
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Speaking technically in powder burner terms is there even such a thing as a semi-auto airgun? In the PB world energy from the shot just fired is used to unlock/extract/eject/cock/load/lock the next round. Do any air guns actually use the energy of the compressed gas to do all of these steps? Many of what are called semi-auto air guns are actually mechanically closer to a double action revolver. The closest thing (at least that I own) is a Beretta M9-A3 CO2 pistol. It has a spring-fed BB magazine so there is feeding and loading.
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Most are revolver style but in airgun sales lingo it translates to semi auto. But youre correct most if not all are actually not semi auto.
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I have serval CO2 pistols. Most aren’t that accurate. A lot of them don’t have adjustable sights; which means they may or may not hit where you aim. If you want a blowback pistol; consider the Sig ASP X Five. It’s a bit on the heavy side and not well suited for smaller hands; but it has adjustable sights. If you want a cheap blowback pistol; I’ve found the Gamo C-15 to be decent. It doesn’t have adjustable sights; so you may want to buy 5 of them from Amazon and keep the 1 that shoots best for you. The Gamo isn’t a replica; so it doesn’t have the cache of some replica pistols. It is small, lite and a good trainer pistol. The Umarex Smith & Wesson M&P 45 is one of my favorite CO2 pistols. It has sights adjustable for windage. I have 1 of them tethered to an HPA tank, with the regulator set at around 1200 psi and it works well.
The Umarex replica pistols (1911A1, CP99, CP88 & M92FS) all shoot about the same, in my experience. They are better built and more accurate than any of the blowback pistols I’ve shot. Be aware that the CP99 Compact is a BB shooter and not the same quality as the other Umarex guns mentioned. I would avoid Umarex Beretta PX4 Storm. The one I have shoots like crap. NEVER EVER BUY a Umarex Walther PPQ \ P99 Q. They have the worst trigger of any gun I’ve ever shot (well the Anics Skiff A-3000 is close). The PPQ M2 isn’t much better. The best built and most accurate CO2 pistols I own, other than the TAU 7, are the Umarex Smith & Wesson 586 and 686 revolvers. They are big, solid and very good shooters. I don’t understand why more folks haven’t discovered these guns. They are hardly ever mentioned. I guess revolvers just aren’t that popular.
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I have the Beretta FS92 replica as well as the real 9mm PB 92. Shooting standing two handed and shooting both from bags, same accuracy out to 50 feet. Love the replica and great casual practice for the real thing.
I also have the Beretta PX4, first CO2 pistol I ever bought, agree, it's the worst accuracy of any CO2 pistol I own. Even my BB only select-fire M9 replica shoots better with BB's than pellets from the PX4.
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To the OP - I know you're asking about semi-auto - and I agree with the LP50 - however, for about half the money, $1000 or so, you can get the Ataman AP16, which, while you do have to operate a small lever, is a repeater, and a darn fine pistol.
It may be more suited to the tasks you listed, which make me think you most likely just want an accurate pistol, that can do more than one shot, with reasonable power, that is good for plinking and fun to shoot. The AP16 is the ticket there. I don't own one (yet), but they're clearly outstanding. Better hurry though, since they're made in Russia, you may not be able to get one much longer, who knows...
It may be more suited to the tasks you listed, which make me think you most likely just want an accurate pistol, that can do more than one shot, with reasonable power, that is good for plinking and fun to shoot. The AP16 is the ticket there. I don't own one (yet), but they're clearly outstanding. Better hurry though, since they're made in Russia, you may not be able to get one much longer, who knows...
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