It All Starts Somewhere REGULATIONS

I don't say a lot on this forum because I don't have the knowledge that others do. However, on this one I do want to and have something to say about regulations. And it will be directly to the proper places. Without flying off the handle. (That might be tough)
Thank you very much for posting this.
John
Yup, we need to voice ourselves without sounding like lunatics. Although passion is sometimes taken as lunacy, wisely chosen words are very important.
 
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I skimmed the proposal and it applies to replicas of firearms airsoft and others. It will have an effect on their production and sales.

You can find it here. - https://www.regulations.gov/document/CPSC-2023-0021-0001

A kid in a nearby town was arrested for shooting his airsoft AR replica near a retirement home. Apparently someone there spotted him and went full Karen. I'd like to know what statute they're charging him under. I just don't understand people...

J~
 
I skimmed the proposal and it applies to replicas of firearms airsoft and others. It will have an effect on their production and sales.

You can find it here. - https://www.regulations.gov/document/CPSC-2023-0021-0001

A kid in a nearby town was arrested for shooting his airsoft AR replica near a retirement home. Apparently someone there spotted him and went full Karen. I'd like to know what statute they're charging him under. I just don't understand people...

J~
@Treefrog
I'd be curious to know if they even charged the kid.
If you find out, please update the thread

As far as not understanding people is concerned, please consider that many older folks (especially in retirement homes) live in a terrified state when it comes to things taking place in the outside world.
Especially when it comes to shootings,
That's one reason that at 74 years old you would have to pry me away from my freestanding home
Just my 22 cal cents
Ed
 
I heard about it on the radio. "Breach of Peace" can cover a wide range of things. Apparently he ran back in the house after and wouldn't come out. Kinda understandable these days...

I feel you on living in a freestanding home, SilentSquirrel. It's the way to go.

Here's a link to the story. - https://www.foxcarolina.com/2023/06/01/dispatch-deputies-responding-active-shooter-anderson-county/

Quote - "Officials said a search warrant was obtained for the home and found a broken plastic Airsoft gun and a .22 revolver.

The teen will be charged with breach of peace and weapons violation for possession under age."

J~
 
I skimmed the proposal and it applies to replicas of firearms airsoft and others. It will have an effect on their production and sales.

You can find it here. - https://www.regulations.gov/document/CPSC-2023-0021-0001

A kid in a nearby town was arrested for shooting his airsoft AR replica near a retirement home. Apparently someone there spotted him and went full Karen. I'd like to know what statute they're charging him under. I just don't understand people...

J~
I have a airsoft replica of my Springfield Xd9, makes a great practice gun in the back yard. Of course the Karens are going to be all pizzie about anything that looks like a 'gun'. I was laughed at by a member on this forum when I said that they would be coming after us next, well SURPRISE here they come. Get ready for Sub-12 or register it.
 
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I have a airsoft replica of my Springfield Xd9, makes a great practice gun in the back yard. Of course the Karens are going to be all pizzie about anything that looks like a 'gun'. I was laughed at by a member on this forum when I said that they would be coming after us next, well SURPRISE here they come. Get ready for Sub-12 or register it.
Look no further than New Jersey as a prime example.

-Marty
 
Nothing worse than someone who is "anti" whatever and when you ask them to explain you get :confused:. I've spoken to people like this and I realize they are brainwashed by the MSM how do I know this, because I have to admit that when I was younger the MSM influenced my beliefs/thinking:oops:
Not to be argumentative, but I hear people all the time who are "anti-woke", and "anti-critical race theory", yet none of them can even define either; they just hear that it's bad. They are not getting that from MSM.
My point is, there are influences all around us from any number of sources. It's up the individual to do their own research to sort out the facts from the fiction.
 
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Many of us have been waiting for this day and hoping it never came. Well friends, it’s starting. It’s starting in the air-soft world and you can rest assured they won’t stop there.
It was a great interview and the gentleman was SPOT ON, it's literally the camels nose under the tent. My comment has been submitted, I actually just copy pasted the form letter.
 
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Here is the letter and where to send it.. www.regulations.gov/document/CPSC-2023-0021-0001

The undersigned opposes the Consumer Product Safety Commission’s proposed Direct Final Rule in Docket No. CPSC-2023-0021. As written, the effect of the Commission’s proposed rule would have significant and unnecessary economic impact on the undersigned and all in the air-soft industry. The Regulatory Flexibility Act (AFA), 5 U.S.C. 601-612 does apply and requires the Commission to prepare an analysis under 5 U.S.C. 603, 604. Without comment from the industry, the proposed Direct Final Rule would be inappropriate and unacceptable without changes.

The Commission’s stated basis for the Direct Final Rule Process is that the new 16 CFR Part 1272 contains no substantive changes from regulations in effect now for more than 30 years. The reason for the new 16 CFR Part 1272 is that recent federal legislation has transferred oversight and enforcement of the regulation from the Department of Commerce to the Commission. Because the Consumer Product Safety Act requires certain certifications for products subject to regulations enforced by the Commission (see Supplementary Information, Paragraph G in the docket entry), the new, proposed 16 CFR Part 1272 would unnecessarily impact the air-soft industry negatively, substantively and financially.

The subject regulation was enabled by 15 U.S.C. § 5001 which imposes certain marking requirements on “look-alike firearms.” Look-alike firearms include “air-soft guns firing nonmetallic projectiles.” 15 U.S.C. § 5001 (c). While the undersigned have long complied with this statute and 16 CRR Part 1272, there has been no requirement for any general product certifications (GCC). Now, apparently, there would be such a requirement. See Supplementary Information, Paragraph G in the docket entry.

Because the Commission states in the subject docket entry that the Commission would be requiring GCCs for air-soft guns, the undersigned and the industry request an opportunity to comment under the Administrative Procedure Act (APA). See generally, 5 U.S.C. 551-559. The undersigned and the industry request that opportunity to address whether GCCs for air-soft guns under 16 CFR Part 1272 is necessary. It is readily apparent upon visual examination whether an air-soft gun complies with 16 CRR Part 1272 marking requirements. GCCs are not necessary.


The undersigned believe the Commission is also required to conduct a flexibility analysis under 5 U.S.C. 603, 504. Many in the industry are small businesses.


The undersigned also state that they and others in the industry are not equipped to provide GCCs for their air-soft products, in the near future, particularly those that would comply with the legal requirements. See, e.g., 15 U.S.C. 2063 (g). Many of their air-soft products are in transit, in inventory, with distributors, and in retail stores.


Accordingly, the undersigned request the Commission withdraw the proposed direct final rule. The undersigned appreciate and understand the Commission’s approach and requests the Commission consider excepting air-soft guns from any requirement for GCCs.


Thank you for your consideration.