From someone who has had both is there any difference in accuracy?
N/A IZH 46 vs 46M
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I have only had the 46M.
The 46 has a shorter barrel so I would think it would be more accurate with less dwell time.
Just IMHO.
The 46 has a shorter barrel so I would think it would be more accurate with less dwell time.
Just IMHO.
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M model (top) pistol has a longer compression tube, and shoots faster; so a shorter "lock time":
From PA article linked above:
From PA article linked above:
"Difference between the IZH 46 and 46M
There is really only one significant difference between the standard IZH 46 and the more powerful 46M and that is the length of the pump mechanism. The 46M pump tube is almost an inch longer than that of the standard 46, resulting in a longer piston stroke that compresses more air. The result is a muzzle velocity of about 500 f.p.s. over 425 f.p.s. for the standard model. Other than that, the two airguns are identical.Power
The thing that sets the 46M apart from other single strokes is its power. It develops a true 500 f.p.s., with lightweight lead pellets. That’s 75 to 100 f.p.s. faster than other single strokes. The manufacturer claims 410 f.p.s. for the 46 and 460 f.p.s. for the 46M, but I have done extensive testing over 20 years and have found my numbers to be more representative.Accuracy
You have already seen the stunning accuracy of the MP532 air rifle. The IZH 46 pistol also has a hammer-forged barrel that gives similar accuracy. It rivals the accuracy of vintage target airguns like the FWB 65."Upvote 0
I have an IZH 46m and also FWB 65 and 80. While I like the form and feel of the FWB's bettter, I find the IZH to be more accurate, and with a better trigger.
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I have owned both in the past and currently own a 46M. I've also had the opportunity to shoot an original 46 as late as last week. Cocking effort seems about the same but I do thing the fit and finish of the newer models are a touch better than the earliest guns. Accuracy, is a wash in my experience. Both are capable of one hole groups at 10M with the right 7 gr pellet. (BTW, The guy that owns the 46 shoots in the 180's with it regularly. He's at the top of our league ranking.) Maybe because I'm used to shooting pistols in the 460-530 fps range but he only "negative" I see on the original is somewhat anemic in velocity. The difference in report is immediately noticeable and its pellets barely punch through the cardboard backers at our range ( His showed a very consistent 365 fps over my Garmin C1 radar last week.) . That said, in a (free) world where 46's of any flavor or vintage are scarce and getting scarcer, I wouldn't hesitate to buy either at a good price. As an aside, I really find it hard to believe that someone hasn't figured out how to build/assemble these pistols outside of Russia so they can be once again marketed to the world. They really are in a class of their own when it comes to value vs accuracy potential.
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weehooker,
Air Venturi had a copy of the 46M made by Alpha Precision. Unfortunately also a Russian company, so no more imports of that either:
Considering the cost of the AV version, when available, I think people decided that at less than half the price, a PCP pistol such as the PP700 made for a more a attractive option. Or a Huben GK1 at twice the price...
I bought my Baikal 46M for 500 bucks 6 years ago from Krale in NL, and like it a lot.
Air Venturi had a copy of the 46M made by Alpha Precision. Unfortunately also a Russian company, so no more imports of that either:
The AV-46M Single Stroke Pneumatic Match Air Pistol: Part 1 | Blog | Pyramyd AIR
by Tom GaylordWriting as B.B. Pelletier The AV-46M target air pistol is a reincarnation of the IZH 46M for the American market. This report covers: It's here! Alfa Precision Air Venturi The pistol Dry-fire Easy to pump Happy, happy But wait….! Sights Weight Owner's manual The price Summary It's...
www.pyramydair.com
Considering the cost of the AV version, when available, I think people decided that at less than half the price, a PCP pistol such as the PP700 made for a more a attractive option. Or a Huben GK1 at twice the price...
I bought my Baikal 46M for 500 bucks 6 years ago from Krale in NL, and like it a lot.
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Here is a real pic of the AV-46M not many of these around and yes the GK1 is a good choice at twice the price.
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I just wish there was some way to obtain a spare seal set other than ordering from Poland via Ebay. From customer reviews when PA used to sell the complete seal set some or one found the set expensive. I'd like to see what that same person would write today about the cost of complete set.
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The breech seals can be replaced by O rings according to maxtrouble and marflow777:
www.airgunnation.com
The air tube seal is available on eBay, as mentioned above.
I dont believe they are high failure items, in my experience anyway.
Ydunn.223 has both the IZH 46M and AV46m for sale in the classifieds.
IZH-46M Transfer Port O Ring Solution
I managed to lose the two o rings on the transfer port arm for the pistol on my second shooting session. I contacted Air Venturi support to see what the replacement parts are. Stacey from Air Venturi told me to use M5x2 o rings that are available from any o ring dealer. Purchased them from The...
www.airgunnation.com The air tube seal is available on eBay, as mentioned above.
I dont believe they are high failure items, in my experience anyway.
Ydunn.223 has both the IZH 46M and AV46m for sale in the classifieds.
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