Josh3rd THIEF!!

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Lewis

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I am so saddened to report this here.
Josh has several times in the past year or two requested small sums of money to help him out between paychecks etc. I have helped him many times. He has always paid me back. Recently he said he needed some money again and that he would send his Pro Sport as collateral. I know he has one because we have discussed it many times, it's even in his Avatar.
This is a long standing member here with nearly 1000 posts and 100% positive feedback.

Rather than hold the gun as collateral, I offered to purchase it for 400.00 plus shipping plus the outstanding balance he currently owed me. All in, I would still be getting a reasonable but not outstanding deal on this used rifle. All of our dealings were through Paypal and while he was on the phone with me. I know him well and his voice is very distinctive. There is no chance this was anyone else. After all was said and done, today I received the package from Josh. A 2x4 in a trashed piece of cardboard!

I am deeply upset by this. I really do hope he gets some help for whatever would lead him to steal from a friend.

In the meantime PLEASE DO NOT deal with him in any way!


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air-hunter_canyon said:
Security cameras outsides the house to ensure delivery > GOPRO RECORDING YOU OPENING OUTSIDE UNDER SECURITY CAM FOOTAGE> Provide proof of fraud to paypal, usps or however they shipped.
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Great advice. All PayPal F&F so no recourse there.
No chance he could blame USPS. The box is 26x7x3 and only 5lb on the shipping label. It could never have held an airgun, even broken down.
You can't even call it a box. More of a sheet of carboard rolled around the 2x4 and folded over on the ends.

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Darn, the 2x4's almost seem an intentional insult. Or?
It is nice to think people will change. Once in a while they do but this person was known on other forum(s) have some problem -alright life happens- burn people for to money/airguns/... and Never make any attempt to correct the situation no matter how much time goes buy.
Sorry you had this happen to you.

John
 
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madeintheuk said:
Wow! Either you insulted him with the deal you made, or he has a serious problem with finances and life in general. I’m sorry you had to deal with this. For him to actually ship you what he did, he seriously meant to punch you in the gut!

This member is off my list. Thanks.
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I agree. No chance I insulted him with the deal. First it was his idea, second it was about 600.00 all in which would be a perfectly reasonable price for a used Pro Sport. He has had it for several years, according to him, and likely paid less than that for it new.
 
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The person in question has been a member since day 1, and has a long history here.
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Nothing on the back-end looks suspicious, so the account has been temporarily blocked from the Classified forum while we await Josh's reply.

Please keep your replies constructive while we give Josh the opportunity to explain the situation.
 
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Trucker3573 said:
One of the weirdest stories from all angles I have read. So you TRULY know him or you know him from a forum and have dealt with him on the phone and here but don’t really “know” him ?? Just curious 🧐
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I would say I know him pretty well. At least 50 calls in the pas 2 years. Bought one gun from him. Many discussions about airguns from a 22mm Tony Leach kit that was installed and later sold here, to troubleshooting his RWS/Diana 54 to his job and home life. We are even friends on Facebook. I have never met him face to face but I have not met many members here who I would certainly trust and consider close friends. There are some I speak with multiple times per week.
 
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Lewis said:
I would say I know him pretty well. At least 50 calls in the pas 2 years. Bought one gun from him. Many discussions about airguns from a 22mm Tony Leach kit that was installed and later sold here, to troubleshooting his RWS/Diana 54 to his job and home life. We are even friends on Facebook. I have never met him face to face but I have not met many members here who I would certainly trust and consider close friends. There are some I speak with multiple times per week.
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What I thought. Sorry but this is a different world we live in today with an ever growing group of people that would say oh well he needed it more than you. It’s sad but true and I know victim shaming is frowned upon but we have to be ever more diligent now than ever to protect ourselves from becoming victims. I think you know this now though.
 
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