JSB .22/28.55 Grands

My phone's been telling me that my storage is full for a few weeks and I've been slowly going through it, trying to clean up old images. In that process I found some images that reminded me that I never shared much about my experience with the Monster Grands last summer.

With most event's scheduling, I don't get many chances to play in the 100 yard benchrest game. BUT, @Martin3528's EFT/EBR event near Williams, AZ last summer gave me that opportunity. In the weeks leading up to that match I spent a bunch of time practicing and comparing set-ups to optimize my chances of doing well. Ultimately I landed on the .22/28.55 Grands as my best option for the benchrest portion of his events.

With the .22/28.55s at 960-965fps I was averaging EBR scores of 225-235 at 100 yards, over the course of 6 or so weeks when I was really shooting a lot. I had a couple cards in the high 230s, but most were in that 225-235 range. This was of course on home court advantage in my backyard, where I feel like I've got a good handle on the wind.

Gun used was a BRK Ghost with the LW 1:30, 5 groove polygonal barrel.

In the competition I was practicing for, the Ghost and the .22/28.55s combined to shoot a 211 and a 218. The 218 from the Grands was the 4th highest of 33 overall cards (all were shot at 100 yards).


In multiple instances of measuring the BCs of the Grands I found them to be in the 0.056-0.062 range, from this particular barrel and at these speeds. So, pretty similar to the 25.4gr Monster RDs.

I also tried them from an RTI 1:32, 6 groove polygonal rifled barrel (RTI's "LR" designation), in the 925-935range. They were good here, but not quite as good as they were from the 1:30 @ 960ish.

With the Grands I did not deal with the prevalent flyer issue seen from most batches of the .22/25.4gr Monster RDs.

The Grands seemed to do best in this particular barrel when lubed with Gunzilla.

Here the images I found on my phone that prompted this post, the 237 is one of the better examples, the other two were pretty typical.

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So why DIDN'T the .22/28.55 Grands take off and become a commonly used pellet in the 100 yard product showcase/EBR/RMAC/PA type bench-rest matches?
In my opinion the answer is two fold:
  1. The .30 options from the Chinese companies hit shortly thereafter, with BCs in the 0.07+ range, and the ever forward march of progress stepped right past the JSB .22/28.55 Grands.
  2. Not everybody had the minimal flyer Grands experience that I enjoy from this particular barrel.
As for why they also don't seem to have been picked up much by the plinkers and hunter and non-competition guys,,,,I think the answer there is squarely because JSB priced themselves out of a lot of sales, (same as they did with the .22/20.83grain Lights). The Grands are some of highest priced small-bore (.22 and under) pellets on the market. Or at least they were the last time I did a market analysis. They're more expensive than the .20 NSA slugs I've been primarily using for my long range/small-bore fun, and so I mostly shoot the .20 NSA slugs when throwing the long bomb.

With my personal hard line in the sand of the power wars not exceeding .22, they offer a slight advantage over the MRDs, mostly in the reduced incidence of flyers. I've been wanting to try the Grands in the pellet class/full monty of one of Ben's Ultimate Field Target matches. It just hasn't happened yet (too many guns, not enough time).

If you're a staunch .22 guy, have a gun with the oomph necessary for 28.44grains, and aren't scared away by the price/shot, the 28.55grain Grands are worth looking into.
 
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Interesting. My .22 is in the low 40s fpe and my .30 is low 70s fpe. I've been thinking about putting an unchoked .22 barrel in the .30, which should reach the upper 900s and then some.

Shooting the Grands in the low 40s did not yield great results for me. I'd get a few good shots and then a flyer or two. I did not extend serious effort into tuning for them.
 
Interesting. My .22 is in the low 40s fpe and my .30 is low 70s fpe. I've been thinking about putting an unchoked .22 barrel in the .30, which should reach the upper 900s and then some.

Shooting the Grands in the low 40s did not yield great results for me. I'd get a few good shots and then a flyer or two. I did not extend serious effort into tuning for them.

I had to run some numbers to see what kinda speeds you're talking for 40fpe and seeing 800fps for just a titch over 40fpe.

I didn't really go nuts tuning for them either. The gun with the RTI barrel was already set up to shoot the MRDs @ 960 and that's the gun that did 925-935 with the Grands and the same settings. So that'd be bout 55fpe.

The Ghost HP came out of the box shooting them at 980 on max, and they were good there too. So I guess I tuned it a bit, fiddling with the reg pressure and hammer tension to to get them to 960ish. For about 58fpe.

From what little I saw, they seem to like slower twist rates from a polygonal rifled barrel, and excelled at 950+. Very much like the MRD in all those aspects.

Seems like I only shot 5-6 tins of them, so around 1000-1200. I can check my empty tin stacks when I get home but I'm fairly certain it was around that many tins.
 
I tried the grands out in my Epoch and RAW. They seem fine, but what i couldn't get rid of was the occasional flyer..even from weighed batches.
On an EBR target, i would be hitting center ring 9's and 10's with the random head-scratching shot to the outer rings. Just takes 1 shot like that to kick you out of contention.
I found the JTS 22.07 had the same BC and have a better consistency than the grands at 50/100 yards
 
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I tried the grands out in my Epoch and RAW. They seem fine, but what i couldn't get rid of was the occasional flyer..even from weighed batches.
On an EBR target, i would be hitting center ring 9's and 10's with the random head-scratching shot to the outer rings. Just takes 1 shot like that to kick you out of contention.
I found the JTS 22.07 had the same BC and have a better consistency than the grands at 50/100 yards

The Grands aren't immune from flyers, just drastically less than MRDs.

I tried some really early tins of the JTS 22.07s and was completely unimpressed. Those 4 tins were 6+ inch 5 shot groups @ 100 yards. Seems many are now having much better results from the JTS than I had, I might need to swing back around and try them again.
 
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The Grands aren't immune from flyers, just drastically less than MRDs.

I tried some really early tins of the JTS 22.07s and was completely unimpressed. Those 4 tins were 6+ inch 5 shot groups @ 100 yards. Seems many are now having much better results from the JTS than I had, I might need to swing back around and try them again.
the one bad thing about the JTS's is that it fouls up a barrel rather quickly.
Needs to be cleaned out thorougly, nylon/brass brush clean, which can be a pain
 
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the one bad thing about the JTS's is that it fouls up a barrel rather quickly.
Needs to be cleaned out thorougly, nylon/brass brush clean, which can be a pain

THAT I did see. With my JTS tests there was lead flecks coming out on patches from barrels that I NEVER have JSB lead get stuck to.

And the barrels took a while to get back to good with JSB lead after the JTS lead.
 
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