Other Just how much must I pay for "Accuracy" in a PCP gun?

[PumaCarl]

Figure out how to work on airguns and they are all very accurate. My original Gauntlet still shoots dime coverable groups at 50y with over 20K pelllets through it. I put together a handful of 10/22's before pcp airgunning and my cheapest was $900, most were between $1200-$1500, and all my pcp (in no wind) can shoot dimes just like they did, at 50y. They are not firearms, you have to baby them a little and not bang on the barrels, but if you can do that they're fine. I have a AAA Paradigm that can take a fair amount of abuse, but that is a lot of money too. My point is that I love the cheap guns too because the more you know the better they shoot. I have a mrod that I bedded the action and barrel on that has never had a poi shift or lost zero, that shoots dime sized groups too. You don't need to spend money to get accurate, you just need to learn how to get it. You need to spend the time.

 

[Perle]

No! That was one of the first things I researched before buying my first Springer..... and then double checking before that the first PCP gun arrived..... and am glad I did! Otherwise I would have whipped out the bronze bore brushes and the CLP, and very like would have wrecked a brand new gun. That is a good "catch" though....and I suspect a lot of noobies like me would make that mistake.

Sometimes the very basics are never told to anyone.
2 decades ago I ruined a Gamo springer using a brass brush !

Just trying to help

 

[Avator]

All my first shots are accurate... because that's the spot I try to hit on all subsequential shots..

 

[Motorhead]

ACCURACY alone is a weak measurement .... just like a Fast car, the car itself might make some preconceived speed threshold, but may very well not be able to do so consistently.

Air guns are MECHANICAL devises outside of how they propel a pellet .... and there quality in producing the required accuracy result consistently and do so over time & use is entirely a different conversation ... IMO

 

[Trucker3573]

Acceptable “accuracy “ is very subjective. What is one ragged hole ? If you expect that every time at 50 that might not be realistic. That isn’t easy and often is shooter, ammo inconsistency and conditions more than the gun. There is also shooting pellets at correct speed with correct tune. Lots of variables. In my experience in pcp shooting you really don’t have to pay for 50 yard accuracy. You are paying more for quality of shooting experience.
To directly address the marauder those in .22 with crosman barrels have been known to be very hit or miss.

 

[Nattboy]

Hello Ed and welcome.

 

[Mr.H]

The Daystate Huntsman had been mentioned in a couple previous threads... Really good guns, both regulated and non. Be sure to browse the "used"section over at Airguns of Arizona. Sometimes there are really good prices compared to retail pricing.

 

[Avator]

There is quite a difference in what a gun can do and what I can do with the gun when it comes to accuracy.

 

[THEKUNK]

My JTS MAx only costed $400 and is as accurate as my Ar Arms s510.
It just is not as beatiful.
Both are in .22 cal.

 

[EdCaffreyMS]

There is quite a difference in what a gun can do and what I can do with the gun when it comes to accuracy.

Totally agree! I own a few powder guns that are capable of much higher accuracy than I am. Shooting is definately a perishable skill....meaning that unless practiced, the "skill" erodes.

 

[EdCaffreyMS]

Acceptable “accuracy “ is very subjective. What is one ragged hole ? If you expect that every time at 50 that might not be realistic. That isn’t easy and often is shooter, ammo inconsistency and conditions more than the gun. There is also shooting pellets at correct speed with correct tune. Lots of variables. In my experience in pcp shooting you really don’t have to pay for 50 yard accuracy. You are paying more for quality of shooting experience.
To directly address the marauder those in .22 with crosman barrels have been known to be very hit or miss.

I'm begining to see that my expectations might be unrealistic in terms of "accuracy." Since starting this thread, I've decided to revisit my MRod.
Before I owned a chrony (FX pocket wireless) I installed an "Upgrade Kit" from Archer Airguns, but I never really understood how to "tune" it until now. I'll report back with my experiences.

 

[Corvid_hunter]

Where you live and what the weather is like has a lot to do with your accuracy. Is it normally calm there? Wild fluctuations in temperature? Air rifles differ from rim fire and center fire rifles in a few ways. You want a traditional looking rifle with a nice wood stock? Daystate.

 

[EdCaffreyMS]

My JTS MAx only costed $400 and is as accurate as my Ar Arms s510.
It just is not as beatiful.
Both are in .22 cal.

JTS Max? Is that the Airacuda Max? If so, I've considered that gun, but am a bit confused between it and the original Airacuda. Have read/watched a number of online reviews of both.... but remain a bit suspicious of each.

 

[Avator]

Totally agree! I own a few powder guns that are capable of much higher accuracy than I am. Shooting is definately a perishable skill....meaning that unless practiced, the "skill" erodes.

Another variable is shooting different guns. Each have their own characteristics which causes the shooter to respond differently. I can't shoot all guns exactly the same way so practice is needed for all.

 

[EdCaffreyMS]

Where you live and what the weather is like has a lot to do with your accuracy. Is it normally calm there? Wild fluctuations in temperature? Air rifles differ from rim fire and center fire rifles in a few ways. You want a traditional looking rifle with a nice wood stock? Daystate.

The wind always blows on the "high plains" of Montana! I try to catch milder days to shoot, but there is never really a "calm" wind day. It's very common to have "High profile vehicle warnings"... with many instances of semi trucks being "blown over" while driving down the roads. Temp swings too..... it can be below zero early in the morning, and in the 60s-70s that same afternoon.

 

[EdCaffreyMS]

The Daystate Huntsman had been mentioned in a couple previous threads... Really good guns, both regulated and non. Be sure to browse the "used"section over at Airguns of Arizona. Sometimes there are really good prices compared to retail pricing.

I've noticed that the Daystate Huntsman has been mentioned several times, an it does tick off the box of being traditional style. There seems to be several variations of that gun.... are folks saying any of them are "good"...or is it just a specific variant?

 

[mh]

Ed,
For the love of shooting itself I say either Daystate Huntsman / Revere or FWB 300.
Pick em up and shoot guns that are accurate as all get up.

 

[beerthief]

"A good springer made by Weihrauch will stack pellets all day long at 55 yards and you can pass them down to your kids."
I have been in this hobby for a while now and am reversing my thinking and selling my PCP guns . I now have several springers and i can guarantee First shot every time no matter how long the gun sit's . With a springer you have the gun and a tin of pellets and out the door you go .
A springer is also tunable , ( maybe polished might be a closer term ) My HW 97 was a $600 rifle plus $150 for an expert tuner , plus a $400 custom Stock which really does not affect the shot POA/POI .
Stan in KY.

 

[Trucker3573]

I'm begining to see that my expectations might be unrealistic in terms of "accuracy." Since starting this thread, I've decided to revisit my MRod.
Before I owned a chrony (FX pocket wireless) I installed an "Upgrade Kit" from Archer Airguns, but I never really understood how to "tune" it until now. I'll report back with my experiences.

“Sounds” “good”. “”

 

[RM100GUY]

I've noticed that the Daystate Huntsman has been mentioned several times, an it does tick off the box of being traditional style. There seems to be several variations of that gun.... are folks saying any of them are "good"...or is it just a specific variant?

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