Thanks for your reply, I have had my share of high dollar PCP's. AZ put his touch on 2 RAW MFR'S, they were very quiet. I have got where I like a short quiet PCP. Cricket for the size is the quietest for me so far, that is why I asked, since the shroud is different. Anyone can put a silencer on and have a quieter PCP that is longer. I like the looks of yours.