Lancer Tactical 6000psi compressor

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Gerry52

Gerry52

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I entered "4500-6000psi compressor" on an Ebay search & it pulled up Lancer Tactical compressor (from Airsoft Megastore I believe). It LOOKS like a really nice self contained unit. Never heard of these or seen one. Anybody else? Think it was about $1400 or so. From USA not CHINA! I'll add link .

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lancer-Tactical-110V-Oil-Free-PCP-Air-Compressor-1500-Watt-6000-PSI-/283916053412?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292
 
 

Spec seem good. Who is going to be the 1st guinea pig? The 3 year warranty cost less than the 2 year. Assuming the warranty is is honored you will at least get 3 years out of it for at additional $110. However it looks like a direct drive compressor that uses o-rings on the pistons and the RPM range suggest that it is a 4 pole a/c induction motor really made for 50 Hz running in the US at 60 Hz. Not ideal for longevity.


 
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I entered "4500-6000psi compressor" on an Ebay search & it pulled up Lancer Tactical compressor (from Airsoft Megastore I believe). It LOOKS like a really nice self contained unit. Never heard of these or seen one. Anybody else? Think it was about $1400 or so. From USA not CHINA! I'll add link .

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lancer-Tactical-110V-Oil-Free-PCP-Air-Compressor-1500-Watt-6000-PSI-/283916053412?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292
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The "read more" info on the Ebay site specifically stated that it was for Scuba and SCBA tanks too. Was just curious whether it's something brand new or just "overlooked" by us compressor information hungry airgunners. 

I "misspoke" it states HPA tanks for PCP's but doesn't mention SCBA or Scuba. Probably not "hefty" enough for our manly needs.
 
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This is a "shipped from California" not "made in the U.S.A" compressor. The temperature readout is in Celsius, the pressure units are MPA, not BAR or PSI, the 110V motor is 50HZ not U.S. spec 60HZ, and the control panel readouts are in Chinese. Why would a U.S. manufacturer opt for these units of measure on a U.S. built compressor? Why wouldn't a U.S. manufacturer promote their new PCP and paintball compressor on any forums or sell through this forum's retailers? 

I'm not Xenophobic about Chinese manufactured goods. I've owned an Alpha Carette purchased from the Chinese manufacturer and it is an excellent compressor. I've owned Acecare tanks, hoses, and fittings purchased on Aliexpress. However, this compressor is not manufactured in the U.S. Shoebox is the only high pressure booster compressor I know of that was U.S.built and sold for paintball or PCP tank owners. Here's the functional Ebay link for the Lancer:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lancer-Tactical-110V-Oil-Free-PCP-Air-Compressor-1500-Watt-6000-PSI-/283916053412?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292

Here is a close up view of the control panel. Shipped from California. Made in China. I make no judgements on it's quality or value. I'm just clarifying for anyone interested to know.
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As pressure rises strain increases exponentially and i would suspect this unit to die a fast death given the task of filling a 6000psi tank!

4500psi is but 50% from 3000psi but the workload and strain on materials is way more than 100%. Anyone with a YH will testify that the fill from 0-1500psi is way faster than 1500-3000psi and 3000-4500psi is a struggle.

So a "true" 6000psi compressor i'm not even going to guees about sucess, as failure is going to be near 100%.

Proof me wrong please!
 
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One of the problems is that the volume of air molecules becomes a real issue at these pressures and they can't be compressed.

So some of the dynamic "air" becomes ridgid and spoils all the "fun".



Have fun here and see why compressing air becomes a bear and why going from 4500 to 6000psi gives way less than you thought.

https://sye.dk/airgun/index.php
 
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The sad reality is that there is no magical design that will permit a manufacturer to make a long lasting compressor capable of 4500 psi that fills a 6.8 liter to 9 liter carbon fiber tank at the prices most guys are willing to pay. It amuses me that we as a group do not raise our eyes at the prices of most high end PCPs where $2,000 plus models are becoming increasingly common. Yet a $2,000 compressor seems ridiculously expensive to many. If you really examine the components of a $2,000 PCP compared to the components in a well designed dive compressor, the value is in the dive compressor, not the PCP.

I understand that value is in the eye of the beholder. A truly long lasting compressor requires premium metal and durable component design to survive the stress of compressing dry air to extreme pressure. There is no free lunch. There is no way for a company to make a cheap AND long lasting compressor. The failure rate of the imported low priced compressors doesn't seem to bother many PCP owners in search of a bargain. Add up the cost of all the broken compressors and it could have funded a reliable one.
 
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Well, I did buy and return the Lancer compressor. Having had more compressors before it and since that one. Here is my updated 5cents. The design is easier to service than the Tuxings (based on a similar design of ReadyAir - didn't take this one apart). The execution seems better as well, based on fit and finish visible from the outside and mechanical sound. Their cooling is a little lacking and could benefit from an overflow tank like a car radiator overflow. Pumped 5000 psi quickly and quietly for the Huben. Filled a 6.8L tank from 2000 psi to 4700 quickly as well. It is the same manufacturer as the Umarex ReadyAir. It was what they built before the ReadyAir. Because there is no overflow for the cooling the cooling pressure went up and I ended up with a coolant leak at the o-rings under the 4 screws on top of the head.

1. I replaced the radiator cap (strike one but still kept it).

2. No overflow for the radiator (bought parts to install one). 

3. Coolant leaks because of excessive coolant pressure. 

4. No overpressure bleed. 

5. Air filter Loctited together. 

6. Can probably last longer on seals with a little oil to the intake like the Hill (didn't test or take apart but based on what I've seen in the ReadyAir it's a good bet). Seals didn't wear out but I ran less than 3 hours before returning. 

I just decided I didn't want to upgrade a brand new compressor so I returned it and bought the Tuxing TXEDT032. Having run the Tuxing for a little while, with its series of problems. I think I should have either kept the Lancer and upgraded it or just bit the bullet and bought a Bauer or Alkins. 

Currently running Altaros Boosters while waiting for my Tuxing to come back from an expert rebuilder (more than half the cost of the compressor with shipping). The boosters work great just slow for my taste (no issues). If the Tuxing fails after it comes back I'll just buy a real compressor. Would buy the Hill but I want to fill the 6.8 L and two 1.5L tanks to 4500, so it's out. 


 
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