Laser Sights — Cool in the Movies — How about for Airgunning?

[JungleShooter]

Laser Sights​

Cool in the Movies! — How about for Airgunning? ​

Seriously — I might betray the large areas of ignorance spread all over my life — would you guys explain to me why no airgunners are using laser sights.... (at least, I haven't seen it on the forums).


Thanks,

Matthias

 

[L.Leon]

Maybe explain why they would? If they have some sort of pesting advantage i don’t see it. Unless you were painting large populations of rats or feral pigs for an air strike.

 

[Gr8Recreation]

Funny. Are the beams truly visible in commercially available units or is that the advertising?

 

[Airgunmann]

Pretty much only have one point of aim where a scope if it were ffp dirty retical you could have many or scope can also be dialed repeatedly and returned back to exact same zero where as the laser is leaving you guessing more and it isn't able to be dialed yes you could use hold over but it would be harder to do accurately and repeatedly

 

[Larcat]

Strongly considering a laser for my L2 for 5-10 yard snake duty. I've done two close in holdover shots "in anger" and although I did it right in both cases, it aint confidence inspiring.

 

[JungleShooter]

Funny. Are the beams truly visible in commercially available units or is that the advertising?

Depends on the atmospheric conditions. Where I shoot we have not one but two conditions that make the beam visible:

▪︎ dust and pollution in the air
▪︎ high humidity

I wished it was otherwise, as this immediately draws attention by anybody, including Karen and Ken....

Matthias

 

[JungleShooter]

Pretty much only have one point of aim [...] — yes you could use hold over but it would be harder to do accurately and repeatedly

● Yeah, with a scope I hold over with the reticle, in mils or moas.

● With a laser sight I hold over with the laser dot on the target, in inches or centimeters.

The difference does not seem that much. (I guess...)

Matthias

 

[bigHUN]

For shorter then 10 meters, shooting my L2 by instinct. Of course I set it in a sweet spot and trained with a scope for holdovers.

 

[starlingassn]

Funny. Are the beams truly visible in commercially available units or is that the advertising?

i have one i bought about 6 or 7 years ago,
and while not quite as extreme as in that photo,
in normal light you can clearly see the beam,and in dim light its like a light saber lol

 

[Airgunmann]

● Yeah, with a scope I hold over with the reticle, in mils or moas.

● With a laser sight I hold over with the laser dot on the target, in inches or centimeters.

The difference does not seem that much. (I guess...)

Matthias

Whatever

 

[dizzums]

pretty useless .. good for letting them know they are 'not' as fast as they think they are occasionally lol ..

 

[rcs9250]

Here in Ohio, laser are illegal for hunting.
I have one on my fishing bow and is pretty neat as it eliminates the image shift from diffraction. The laser diffracts the same as your eyes. In fog, the green laser is incredible.

 

[madeintheuk]

I could see it being very useful as a setup for short range acquisition. Then I don’t need to worry about holdover on the scope when I just want to take a quick shot. Similar to those that have a scope for long range, then a red dot mounted on an angle rod close up. Good lasers seem to be pretty expensive!

 

[JungleShooter]

Here in Ohio, laser are illegal for hunting.

Wow, that's surprising, or... confusing. (To me, remember, I'm pretty ignorant about lasers, that's why I'm asking.)

I don’t ask you to defend Ohio's legislation, but would you be able to help me understand somehow what it is about a laser that requires such severe response by the law makers?
(Not trying to pick a fight, just trying to understand lasers for hunting, that's my OP about.)

Matthias

 

[JungleShooter]

For shorter then 10 meters, shooting my L2 by instinct.
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Attila,

that is a great idea.
And how you snuck the laser under your scope, very cool.

Did you have to use high scope mounts to fit it? Do you have a link for this laser? Thanks.

Matthias

 

[rcs9250]

Wow, that's surprising, or... confusing. (To me, remember, I'm pretty ignorant about lasers, that's why I'm asking.)

I don’t ask you to defend Ohio's legislation, but would you be able to help me understand somehow what it is about a laser that requires such severe response by the law makers?
(Not trying to pick a fight, just trying to understand lasers for hunting, that's my OP about.)

Matthias

If I’m not mistaken, it’s because it is not as “sporting”. Think about it, you have a weapon with a laser on it, laying in your lap or on some kind of rest and you never have to raise it to your eye, all you have to do is turn laser on and move the dot to the target. Very easy. With my fishing compound it takes a lot of the human sight alignment out of it but you still have to hold the bow at full draw and steady but where the laser dot is, is where the arrow goes. I guess they allow it on forage fish because they’re junk fish.

 

[JungleShooter]

If I’m not mistaken, it’s because it is not as “sporting”. [...] You never have to raise [the lasor] to your eye, all you have to do is turn laser on and move the dot to the target. Very easy.

Randy,

that's a good way of explaining it.

(a) Makes sense — seen from the hunting as sporting perspective, the David Crockett perspective, "fair game," all that. Because — it's too easy.

(b) Which brings me to the other perspective, the perspective of what's the most efficient way to kill pests. No sporting needed, just liberation of the farmer.
If lasers are "too easy" for sporting — then it seems that for efficient killing in non-sporting scenarios (pesting) we would use lasers more often? But it seems we don't.... (Or am I missing something here? Probably.)

Matthias

 

[rcs9250]

(b) Which brings me to the other perspective, the perspective of what's the most efficient way to kill pests. No sporting needed, just liberation of the farmer.
If lasers are "too easy" for sporting — then it seems that for efficient killing in non-sporting scenarios (pesting) we would use lasers more often? But it seems we don't.... (Or am I missing something here? Probably.)

Matthias

Excellent point, but I doubt the Ohio , or other, Department of Natural Resources would go for it. But no doubt is done somewhere, with excellent results. Brings thoughts of that remote rifle used in that Mark Wahlberg movie SHOOTER.

 

[d3vnull]

I tried a green laser at 10 meters. It works fine. You won't see the beam, but you will see the dot.

However, think of the laser as a cone. The farther out you go the larger the dot. On my 10/22 that was fine for punching 3 inch plates at 35 yards. Precision wise a scope does better.

 

[hawkeye69]

I was initially intrigued by having a laser on my Pulsar, but in daylight I can't even see it. Perhaps in the evening set to15 yards or so it might be helpful for shooting rats, but overall it's just a gimmick.