Groups? I'm really curious what you guys get at 60-75 yds plus....please let me see the target and gun used . This weekend I'm going to try 75 yds with my tx and hw97 for some fun.
Lets see some long distance...
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I was hitting the small end of this water bottle at 60 yards off hand, HW50 177. After I found the holdover. I didn't know the distance until afterwords.
How's your off hand shooting? I don't shoot from a bench much.
You should be able to do much better than this with a TX or a 97.
How's your off hand shooting? I don't shoot from a bench much.
You should be able to do much better than this with a TX or a 97.
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I have posted this before. Hw77 22 cal shooting pin pong balls filled with talcum powder at 61 metres. Their not groups however at the end of the video you can see the groups I was getting on the paper targets. Not the worlds best video but you can clearly see the hits.
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I’m still learning the proper hold so I’ll just watch the thread. Maybe in time I can contribute some pictures. I have an hw97 .177 that’s waiting on me to put in a full power vortek kit.
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I once did a 100 yard “serious” shooting session with a HW R9. This was 10-15 years ago. I posted results on a forum. Assuming you don’t mind this to be “recycled” I will look for the picts. and post it here.
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NOTE: ALL THIS IS FROM 2011
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I got about “3 MOA” at 100 yards with my 177 cal. R9. Pics @ bottom.
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THE LONG STORY
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My typical shooting range in my backyard is 25 yards. Very seldom I have the chance to shoot at longer ranges. Last week I was out of town and had this opportunity for a couple of days. As an amateur, average airgunner, I had a serious session at 100 yards. I say "serious", because I set the range properly, the targets, the shooting bench, the scope settings, etc. And this was a 2-3 hours session.
This R9 is a current production gun and has a JM kit inside. From all the springers I have tried, this is the most accurate with me behind the trigger. Can shoot 1/3 CTC groups at 25 yards all day long, with ease, turning more like a 1/4 if I concentrate. That is “1 MOA” accuracy. It likes JSB exacts 7.9 gr., and shoots them at 860 fps making about 13 fpe. It is scoped with a Leupold VXIII 6.5-20 x 40 EFR.
First I shot at 50 yards. To adjust the scope for that distance, it needed more or less 20 clicks "up". At 50 yards the R9 was not “1 MOA accurate” yards anymore. Groups at 50 yards were about 1 inch CTC, being able to reduce that to slightly less than 0.8 if I concentrated a lot. So, being this a 1 MOA gun at 25 yards, it turned out to be more like a 1.5 MOA gun (or a bit more) at 50 yards.
Then I set the range at 100 yards. Scope adjustment was about 80 clicks "up" with respect to the 50 yards shooting. I estimate the vertical falling of the pellet to be around 3 feet. I shoot in the middle of the night, using small led lamps close to the target. Walking to change the targets seemed endless, and also made me a bit nervous because I was completely alone in the night, in middle of nowhere. The good part of it was that wind was almost absent. I shot 6 groups, 15 shots each, CTC size in inches are as follows:
6,5
5,6
4,5
4,0
3,6
3,0
The conclusion is that, at 100 yards and with me behind the trigger, this R9 might be a 3 MOA gun. Note how group size improved consistently and noticeable target after target. Cool! I feel a regular mark below 3 MOA might be doable for me, with just a little more practice.
Picts. of the targets:
Picts. of the gun:
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SUMMARY
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I got about “3 MOA” at 100 yards with my 177 cal. R9. Pics @ bottom.
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THE LONG STORY
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My typical shooting range in my backyard is 25 yards. Very seldom I have the chance to shoot at longer ranges. Last week I was out of town and had this opportunity for a couple of days. As an amateur, average airgunner, I had a serious session at 100 yards. I say "serious", because I set the range properly, the targets, the shooting bench, the scope settings, etc. And this was a 2-3 hours session.
This R9 is a current production gun and has a JM kit inside. From all the springers I have tried, this is the most accurate with me behind the trigger. Can shoot 1/3 CTC groups at 25 yards all day long, with ease, turning more like a 1/4 if I concentrate. That is “1 MOA” accuracy. It likes JSB exacts 7.9 gr., and shoots them at 860 fps making about 13 fpe. It is scoped with a Leupold VXIII 6.5-20 x 40 EFR.
First I shot at 50 yards. To adjust the scope for that distance, it needed more or less 20 clicks "up". At 50 yards the R9 was not “1 MOA accurate” yards anymore. Groups at 50 yards were about 1 inch CTC, being able to reduce that to slightly less than 0.8 if I concentrated a lot. So, being this a 1 MOA gun at 25 yards, it turned out to be more like a 1.5 MOA gun (or a bit more) at 50 yards.
Then I set the range at 100 yards. Scope adjustment was about 80 clicks "up" with respect to the 50 yards shooting. I estimate the vertical falling of the pellet to be around 3 feet. I shoot in the middle of the night, using small led lamps close to the target. Walking to change the targets seemed endless, and also made me a bit nervous because I was completely alone in the night, in middle of nowhere. The good part of it was that wind was almost absent. I shot 6 groups, 15 shots each, CTC size in inches are as follows:
6,5
5,6
4,5
4,0
3,6
3,0
The conclusion is that, at 100 yards and with me behind the trigger, this R9 might be a 3 MOA gun. Note how group size improved consistently and noticeable target after target. Cool! I feel a regular mark below 3 MOA might be doable for me, with just a little more practice.
Picts. of the targets:
Picts. of the gun:
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I've thought about buying a springer for long range plinking so this thread is of interest to me. I always thought that I'd get a side or underlever from one of the German manufacturers. Never considered a multi-pump, like the DragonFly, but I like the price!
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Use 2-1/2- 3" pellet tins as bulls and you should pretty much keep them all in. But wind just a slight wiff teally yakes a hold past 50.
Not saying there wonderful. I got thteadd from 50 to 100 most on irons some scoped
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R9 75y try ( keyword "try")
They look great to me. With iron I would likely be 6 inches or more. I can do 2.5 to 3 on a great day with slugs at 100-yards with my springer but best days are not most days. Here it's a 2-1/2" lid as a bulls This time a near stright to the target tailwind. And its 12' hotter now 74'...
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R9 ,100y
Thursday late evening the wind died down enugh i set up 100 rack and sighted in , yesterday gale force no shooting,. This morning before the sun broke over the horizon it was still so checked my work.. R9 , cphp .177, 100y,. Stock irons. Rested on o"lsock and a block. Not bad if i say...
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Depends on the day...my burn barrel is 80 yds from my bench. A rusted old 55 gallon drum that shows up pellet hits very well then they rust over in a week or two so you can shoot it some more. If conditions are good, I often shoot some pellets at it, then walk out to see group sizes. Typical would probably be around 1 1\2" dia in dead calm on a good day, simetimes out to 2" mabey even a little more. Sometimes a small puff of wind sends a few fliers outside of that. There have been days that 5 shots in under an inch were made, but not the normal. My TX III has been tuned with the original factory parts a few shims added and spring polished and lubed. 8.4 gn AA domes run at 910 fps plus or minus 5 fps. Like most, there are days I can't miss, then there are days, I just give up and plink at closer targets.
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Squirrel at 175, Rabbit at 178 yards using my FX Boss with 44.75gr PELLETS, not slugs, and witnessed!
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Here is an earlier thread with 100 yards and TX200 as well.
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TX200 MKIII at 100-yards
This morning was very still and I was intending to shoot 100-yard rimfire. But, it very still. Did I mention how still it was? As I am still getting the TX200 MKIII rebuild with a 3mm spacer in front of the top hat settled it seemed opportune. I really think it is there. This break-in...
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Neither, PCP. Nothing in the title stated springer/gas ram. Just mentioned distance. Sorry.
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Just to keep this real I thought I would shoot at 100 yards on a poor day. It was windy today. variable 5mph to 10mph mostly from left to right but switching to any direction at any time. Some of the time directly at me, other times from the rear. It was not a great day to shoot.
So I shot an 8 inch plate to see how things would look in the wind. Just using a consistent point of aim for all shots. I let the wind do what it wanted and I shot until I thought I could figure out the general poi.
8 inch plate
AA 8.4 (4.52) grain sorted to 8.5 grain.
Same with 2 inch circle imposed in it.
AA 10.3 unsorted.
Same with 2 inch circle imposted.
Zan 10 grain slug (unsorted)
Same with a 2 inch circle imposted.
So I shot an 8 inch plate to see how things would look in the wind. Just using a consistent point of aim for all shots. I let the wind do what it wanted and I shot until I thought I could figure out the general poi.
8 inch plate
AA 8.4 (4.52) grain sorted to 8.5 grain.
Same with 2 inch circle imposed in it.
AA 10.3 unsorted.
Same with 2 inch circle imposted.
Zan 10 grain slug (unsorted)
Same with a 2 inch circle imposted.
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I get about the same groups at 60-70 as I do at 50-yards. Probably about 1/4" larger. Target attached.
View attachment Three Bull 4 Inch.pdf
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Nice day and a good hold these springers can reach out nicely.. may not kill much but it will print paper.
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Morning coffee 75y, r9 .177, h&n .52, and got confused on holdover dot and blew it with that low one .. just cant help getting that one ..
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Morning coffee 75y, r9 .177, h&n .52, and got confused on holdover dot and blew it with that low one .. just cant help getting that one ..
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I lost my holdovers as well, more so than I care to admit!
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