Let's talk pellets!

[Josh1973]

I picked up a can of H&N Barracuda .25 cal pellets
30.86 grain.
Shooting out of a proper working stock non modified Hatsan Zada.
Roughly 700 to 750 range.
So my question is this.
1. Is the H&N Barracuda a good all purpose round for general shooting targets and hunting both?
2. Should I go to 22 to 25 grain instead of shooting heavier 30 to 35 grain slugs?
3. Did I make a good choice?
I picked up a can of H&N Barracuda .25 cal pellets
30.86 grain.
Shooting out of a proper working stock non modified Hatsan Zada.
Roughly 700 to 750 range.
So my question is this.
1. Is the H&N Barracuda a good all purpose round for general shooting targets and hunting both?
2. Should I go to 22 to 25 grain instead of shooting heavier 30 to 35 grain slugs?
3. Did I make a good choice?
4. Is a .25 caliber with a 4x red dot a good turkey head splitter? Or good for 10 to 40 yards?
Any suggestions appreciated.
I ask because I want I picked up a can of H&N Barracuda .25 cal pellets
30.86 grain.
Shooting out of a proper working stock non modified Hatsan Zada.
Roughly 700 to 750 range.
So my question is this.
1. Is the H&N Barracuda a good all purpose round for general shooting targets and hunting both?
2. Should I go to 22 to 25 grain instead of shooting heavier 30 to 35 grain slugs?
3. Did I make a good choice? Try a different brand?
Looking for pellets that is semi affordable. Works decent with break barrel. General moderate target plinking.
And rabid small game rabies control.
Might try turkey head shot hunting out with it.

 

[SAA_Gunslinger]

I picked up a can of H&N Barracuda .25 cal pellets
30.86 grain.
Shooting out of a proper working stock non modified Hatsan Zada.
Roughly 700 to 750 range.
So my question is this.
1. Is the H&N Barracuda a good all purpose round for general shooting targets and hunting both?
2. Should I go to 22 to 25 grain instead of shooting heavier 30 to 35 grain slugs?
3. Did I make a good choice?
I picked up a can of H&N Barracuda .25 cal pellets
30.86 grain.
Shooting out of a proper working stock non modified Hatsan Zada.
Roughly 700 to 750 range.
So my question is this.
1. Is the H&N Barracuda a good all purpose round for general shooting targets and hunting both?
2. Should I go to 22 to 25 grain instead of shooting heavier 30 to 35 grain slugs?
3. Did I make a good choice?
4. Is a .25 caliber with a 4x red dot a good turkey head splitter? Or good for 10 to 40 yards?
Any suggestions appreciated.
I ask because I want I picked up a can of H&N Barracuda .25 cal pellets
30.86 grain.
Shooting out of a proper working stock non modified Hatsan Zada.
Roughly 700 to 750 range.
So my question is this.
1. Is the H&N Barracuda a good all purpose round for general shooting targets and hunting both?
2. Should I go to 22 to 25 grain instead of shooting heavier 30 to 35 grain slugs?
3. Did I make a good choice? Try a different brand?
Looking for pellets that is semi affordable. Works decent with break barrel. General moderate target plinking.
And rabid small game rabies control.
Might try turkey head shot hunting out with it.

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Those are good plinking pellets. Personally, I recommend Barracuda Hunter or better yet, Barracuda Hunter Extreme. A head shot with any of the three will be a kill shot. I harvested one using .177 out of a Daisy Powerline 880. Zero your gun in the best you can. The 25 grain would also be my choice for mid to long range.

 

[Scotty1]

Try some JSB Kings 25.39 grain, they are always a good starting place.

 

[Gerry52]

If your gun likes the Barracuda you might try the Barracuda Hunters or Barracuda Hunter Extreme (if you hunt). Also what Scotty1 above said along with .25 Hades.

 

[Josh1973]

I picked up a can of these today to try out. I figure 31 grain slugs should not be too hard for a 700 fps break barrel to push.

 

[Revoman]

Yep, the Baracuda Hunter .25 cal, 24.47gr pellets are the best that I have experienced in my Crown for hunting purposes. That Crown did not like the Extremes at all.
Sold the Crown tho....

mike

 

[HN Sport]

I picked up a can of these today to try out. I figure 31 grain slugs should not be too hard for a 700 fps break barrel to push.

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I would be cautious with slugs/bullet-shaped pellets in a break-barrel rifle. Sometimes they don't fit all the way into the "chamber" and get deformed when closing the breech.

 

[Josh1973]

I would be cautious with slugs/bullet-shaped pellets in a break-barrel rifle. Sometimes they don't fit all the way into the "chamber" and get deformed when closing the breech.

Thanks for letting me know. I got the plain Barracudas also. 31 grain slugs worth a shot.
I will check them after closing and do accuracy tests.
My thinking was that slugs tend to be a bit harder to damage in shipping over pellets.
My thinking was also these are smaller shorter slugs and possibly are comnpatible with a standard break barrel.
I do hope these work.
Only 1 way to find out.
I really enjoy the solid build and kinetic energy of a slug.
I have used your pellets for 6 years now.
Great customer service. Great company.

 

[Wait_what]

Those H&Ns are what I was shooting in my Hatsan Jet until I discovered Apollo pellets. The domes in .25 is all I use now for half the price.

 

[greenbeans]

AEA pellets are better than anything else these days IMHO. All my guns love them. Thinking that I spent hours and countless different tins to find “the” pellet for every individual gun. Just for AEA to come around and start producing the ultimate pellet apparently. I’m not buying any other pellets anymore. All calibers. They also make slugs and people seem happy with them, I couldn’t make their slugs work yet…

 

[Josh1973]

AEA pellets are better than anything else these days IMHO. All my guns love them. Thinking that I spent hours and countless different tins to find “the” pellet for every individual gun. Just for AEA to come around and start producing the ultimate pellet apparently. I’m not buying any other pellets anymore. All calibers. They also make slugs and people seem happy with them, I couldn’t make their slugs work yet…

It's all gravy man. If they hit the target to your satisfaction. They are good. So far I seem pretty lucky with the Barracudas and slugs I got from H&N.
But I am not averse to other pellets.
It's what the air rifle wants in the end. Not me.
I want to try some Eunjin pellets out. but at over 43 grams. I bet they got some hard punch in something like a more powerful pcp design which can take advantage of their weight and density.
I feel that there would be too much weight to make these any more effective in a break barrel rated for a budget Zada 700 to 750 fps break barrel . Which is why I choose the smaller 31 grain H&N 31 grain slugs.
To compliment my barracudas.
Truthfully, I need to bite the bullet, save up or go ion debt, and get an air arms or AEA. Maybe a Diana in a 30 cal

 

[BABz58]

I picked up a can of these today to try out. I figure 31 grain slugs should not be too hard for a 700 fps break barrel to push.

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Depending on the fit to the bore. They might be in the mid 500s to low 600fps range. And with any break barrel. I’d go with lighter slugs

 

[Bedrock Bob]

The rate of twist in your breakbarrel is designed for pellets. It's probably not fast enough twist to stabilize a slug properly.

There is an ideal weight range. Too heavy or too light will kill accuracy and make springers do funny things.

 

[Trucker3573]

In my personal experience I have found JSB, FX, JTS etc to always shoot better than H&N offerings.

 

[Josh1973]

The rate of twist in your breakbarrel is designed for pellets. It's probably not fast enough twist to stabilize a slug properly.

There is an ideal weight range. Too heavy or too light will kill accuracy and make springers do funny things.

Oh crap? It's a good thing I got a tin of .30 grain barracuda pellets also. So the rifling will pose a problem it seems. The slugs I got are just 31 grain. Pellets run 30

 

[Josh1973]

Depending on the fit to the bore. They might be in the mid 500s to low 600fps range. And with any break barrel. I’d go with lighter slugs

I could not fgind s lighter slug than 31 grains for a .25 csliber.

 

[Bedrock Bob]

Oh crap? It's a good thing I got a tin of .30 grain barracuda pellets also. So the rifling will pose a problem it seems. The slugs I got are just 31 grain. Pellets run 30

The formula for twist is based on length. Not necessarily weight. So your barrel will shoot a certain length projectile best.

The spring and piston swept volume will have an ideal weight. You need enough weight to keep the piston from slamming. Too much weight and your going to loose velocity badly. You may have a big heavy slug but it may have less power than a lighter slug moving faster.

There is a sweet spot with every spring rifle where the ideal weight and projectile length overlap. Springers aren't designed to shoot slugs. But some slugs may be designed to shoot in springers. So I honestly don't know what projectiles might work best.

I would find the average weight range pellet for your rifle and shoot a few targets. See what is too light and too heavy. Then buy a slug that's in that weight range.

I couldn't imagine shooting a 30 gr slug in a .25 cal springer. From my limited experience that seems WAY too heavy. I would assume those pellets would be designed for a PCP. But then I don't shoot a .25 so i know nothing about it.

My .22 springers (all of them) shoot pellets 14-16 grains. I've never shot a slug through a spring piston or gas piston air rifle.

I loose velocity and impact (fp) with a heavier pellet. The shot drops way too fast and limits your range. And it easy to miss high or low with such a bad trajectory. A pellet too light makes the shot cycle violent (no air cushion at the end of the stroke). So I stay within that weight range and get good performance and impact.

You kinda have to achieve a three way balance with a springer. The barrel, the powerplant and the projectile has to sing together. If one is off key things don't sound the way they are supposed to shoot and the notes won't hit the bullseye.

 

[BABz58]

I could not fgind s lighter slug than 31 grains for a .25 csliber.

Couple I found via Google.

 

[Blankshot17]

These stack in one hole for me at almost 30 yards at possibly the same muzzle velocity you might have. Worth a try, lighter is flatter and if accuracy is there?

 

[Josh1973]

The formula for twist is based on length. Not necessarily weight. So your barrel will shoot a certain length projectile best.

The spring and piston swept volume will have an ideal weight. You need enough weight to keep the piston from slamming. Too much weight and your going to loose velocity badly. You may have a big heavy slug but it may have less power than a lighter slug moving faster.

There is a sweet spot with every spring rifle where the ideal weight and projectile length overlap. Springers aren't designed to shoot slugs. But some slugs may be designed to shoot in springers. So I honestly don't know what projectiles might work best.

I would find the average weight range pellet for your rifle and shoot a few targets. See what is too light and too heavy. Then buy a slug that's in that weight range.

I couldn't imagine shooting a 30 gr slug in a .25 cal springer. From my limited experience that seems WAY too heavy. I would assume those pellets would be designed for a PCP. But then I don't shoot a .25 so i know nothing about it.

My .22 springers (all of them) shoot pellets 14-16 grains. I've never shot a slug through a spring piston or gas piston air rifle.

I loose velocity and impact (fp) with a heavier pellet. The shot drops way too fast and limits your range. And it easy to miss high or low with such a bad trajectory. A pellet too light makes the shot cycle violent (no air cushion at the end of the stroke). So I stay within that weight range and get good performance and impact.

You kinda have to achieve a three way balance with a springer. The barrel, the powerplant and the projectile has to sing together. If one is off key things don't sound the way they are supposed to shoot and the notes won't hit the bullseye.

Well, I will try some lighter 22-24 grain range pellets next month. . And see how they shoot compared to my 31 grain pellets/slugs.
I am gonna probably try these next.