Airforce long distance target shooting airforce Condor 22 vs Seneca eagle claw 22 vs????

[markhooper]

Hi I'm hoping for suggestions and direction. I've got several PCP guns and well my normal range is 30 yards pistol and 50 yards rifle.. I want to stretch it out as far as possible.. my American tactical liberty nova 22 is good for 3" at 120 with open sights..160 it's everywhere and I know it is not me because I got out my golden boy and hit just fine and I actually backed up to 1/4 mile and did well..
that said I prefer Airguns for the less noise.
I need to get another airgun for this endeavor and well budget is small on disability.
so I want to start with 22 caliber and be able to easily adjust the power so I can plink at 100- with cheap pellets and then easily turn it up for jsb beasts or hopefully 40 grain slugs.. yes I know that 308 and 25 is better but for now I want to stay with 22.
now I'm not even punching paper, metal targets so I can easily hear the hits.
so I am considering a Seneca eagle claw, I do love cowboy guns.. and it's got the power wheel.. but I am not sure if it is up to the task..I also prefer magazine fed.
I'm more inclined to the airforce Condor 22. wish it had a magazine...I prefer the long barrel but I don't like noise, hence airguns instead of the 22lr golden boy so possibly a Condor SS in 22. guess if it was available I'd prefer the Texan lss in 22 caliber..
anything else you would recommend, I am trying to stay with a simple gun and it seems like the Condor.. but I'd like to hear from you..
also what ammo is good? I like the jsb monster redesign jumbo pellets and definitely want to try the beasts.. NSA slugs look good too..
I'm sure I have a few more questions but I'll start here.. trying to stay away from finicky guns and ones that have a lot of seals waiting to go bad..
also I have watched a lot of long distance shooting and for the most part they are Texans 257+308.. noticable they are the long barrel but no moderator.. and well I want to keep the sound down so I can enjoy it..
so why does everyone I have seen not have any moderator.. the Texan is available in the lss.. does it affect accuracy?
also since it's apparent that I won't be able to get open sights like I want what is a budget varmint scope? 6-24 magnification that I should consider? I don't want illuminated recital or battery, just a good simple scope. and it will likely get a raven scope jack under it.
another question is what is range finding scope? any links for me to read will be greatly appreciated..
for now unless I have missed a gun that would better suit this, I'm thinking the Condor SS 22 is the best for this.. but I keep thinking it needs a 24" barrel instead of 18" and well then it's going to probably be too loud since it's not got the moderator..
again any suggestions or help will be great.. plus if you know if a reasonable price Condor SS 22 used that might be even better.
thank you all
Mark

 

[mercado]

I have a .22 condor in which I could use either of my barrels . The 18" is 12mm thick so it makes the gun as light as a talon p .. the 24" is 16mm thick so way heavy but better for using slugs..+ i foun a rti 1-32 twist barrel that i got worked for the condor to .
I would recommend to have a spare bottle with a talon p valve which is the most powerful aviable from factory.. mine could shoot 40gr slugs at 990fps with a 70gram hammer and the factory spring with the preload in 1 ..with a muzzle break acurracy is flawless and effortless.. + anything I could need for spare parts is just a phone call to Rachel away..my .22 and 25 both with the 24" barrels .

 

[MakerPlumber]

Hi I'm hoping for suggestions and direction. I've got several PCP guns and well my normal range is 30 yards pistol and 50 yards rifle.. I want to stretch it out as far as possible.. my American tactical liberty nova 22 is good for 3" at 120 with open sights..160 it's everywhere and I know it is not me because I got out my golden boy and hit just fine and I actually backed up to 1/4 mile and did well..
that said I prefer Airguns for the less noise.
I need to get another airgun for this endeavor and well budget is small on disability.
so I want to start with 22 caliber and be able to easily adjust the power so I can plink at 100- with cheap pellets and then easily turn it up for jsb beasts or hopefully 40 grain slugs.. yes I know that 308 and 25 is better but for now I want to stay with 22.
now I'm not even punching paper, metal targets so I can easily hear the hits.
so I am considering a Seneca eagle claw, I do love cowboy guns.. and it's got the power wheel.. but I am not sure if it is up to the task..I also prefer magazine fed.
I'm more inclined to the airforce Condor 22. wish it had a magazine...I prefer the long barrel but I don't like noise, hence airguns instead of the 22lr golden boy so possibly a Condor SS in 22. guess if it was available I'd prefer the Texan lss in 22 caliber..
anything else you would recommend, I am trying to stay with a simple gun and it seems like the Condor.. but I'd like to hear from you..
also what ammo is good? I like the jsb monster redesign jumbo pellets and definitely want to try the beasts.. NSA slugs look good too..
I'm sure I have a few more questions but I'll start here.. trying to stay away from finicky guns and ones that have a lot of seals waiting to go bad..
also I have watched a lot of long distance shooting and for the most part they are Texans 257+308.. noticable they are the long barrel but no moderator.. and well I want to keep the sound down so I can enjoy it..
so why does everyone I have seen not have any moderator.. the Texan is available in the lss.. does it affect accuracy?
also since it's apparent that I won't be able to get open sights like I want what is a budget varmint scope? 6-24 magnification that I should consider? I don't want illuminated recital or battery, just a good simple scope. and it will likely get a raven scope jack under it.
another question is what is range finding scope? any links for me to read will be greatly appreciated..
for now unless I have missed a gun that would better suit this, I'm thinking the Condor SS 22 is the best for this.. but I keep thinking it needs a 24" barrel instead of 18" and well then it's going to probably be too loud since it's not got the moderator..
again any suggestions or help will be great.. plus if you know if a reasonable price Condor SS 22 used that might be even better.
thank you all
Mark

I have the Seneca double claw, you want to know what it can do at a long distance? I couldn't tell you because I can't hit anything from very far away with it. there smoothbore and only have a front bead, like a shot gun. I did just put a dove tail on it and a shot gun scope, but I've yet to try and line it up. now even with not being able to hit anything with a slug, besides 20 yards maybe I can hit a pumpkin. but I love the gun and the bird shot I can definitely hit stuff. haven't tried the arrow, they seem way over priced when I know I'll only likely get one shot each out of a arrow. One thing I don't like is you have to take the chokes off to shoot a slug, which now that I say that it sounds pretty stupid, but the part I don't like is you have bare threads showing and it just looks wrong in my eyes. I did however buy two more chokes leaving me with two of two different choke, so I took one of each and drilled them to use when I'm loaded with slugs. it was my first PCP it's beautiful to look at and very versatile from deer to birds, that's if you can get close enough to a deer. next time I take it out I'll try to slug something from a distance and see what happens. I do know it'll throw lead along ways. now that I've said all that, I feel like the single barrel one I read has a riffled barrel. in that case I just wrote a whole bunch of nothing, but I'm still going to send it anyways because it was a lot of work.

 

[rwsmike]

I have two condor ss in 25 plus 22 and the 22 shoots the 25 grain redesigned at 950 fps pretty gd. You can change the power fast on the condor with the new spin loc system

 

[markhooper]

I have the Seneca double claw, you want to know what it can do at a long distance? I couldn't tell you because I can't hit anything from very far away with it. there smoothbore and only have a front bead, like a shot gun. I did just put a dove tail on it and a shot gun scope, but I've yet to try and line it up. now even with not being able to hit anything with a slug, besides 20 yards maybe I can hit a pumpkin. but I love the gun and the bird shot I can definitely hit stuff. haven't tried the arrow, they seem way over priced when I know I'll only likely get one shot each out of a arrow. One thing I don't like is you have to take the chokes off to shoot a slug, which now that I say that it sounds pretty stupid, but the part I don't like is you have bare threads showing and it just looks wrong in my eyes. I did however buy two more chokes leaving me with two of two different choke, so I took one of each and drilled them to use when I'm loaded with slugs. it was my first PCP it's beautiful to look at and very versatile from deer to birds, that's if you can get close enough to a deer. next time I take it out I'll try to slug something from a distance and see what happens. I do know it'll throw lead along ways. now that I've said all that, I feel like the single barrel one I read has a riffled barrel. in that case I just wrote a whole bunch of nothing, but I'm still going to send it anyways because it was a lot of work.

still absolutely good information..if you need a choke bored out with a great finish I'll do it for you, I have my own machine shop
just PM me.. I'll do it for the postage..
Mark

 

[markhooper]

just got two condors in 22 caliber.a 24" barrel and the SS Condor.. good package deal and I got the ring lock top hat orface kit.. I'll see what they look like and then I'll pass on one as a good deal for someone else.
I wanted the long barrel but I like quiet, so I'll probably keep the SS Condor and see if I can machine a shroud extension so I can use a longer barrel with it.. id also like to get a 36" barrel in 22 caliber,no choke for slugs
Mark

 

[MakerPlumber]

still absolutely good information..if you need a choke bored out with a great finish I'll do it for you, I have my own machine shop
just PM me.. I'll do it for the postage..
Mark

I would take you up on that. if I can only find the one's I ordered to ream out. I had forgotten that I found a tighter set of chokes when I got those. I see I have one of each one it now. after one partridge kind of just fell over and died, and then the one right beside it shot from the other barrel was quite blown away haha. first two birds I've gotten to shoot with my double claw, and I'm impressed. the single barrel is riffled and has iron sights, It's on my must need list after I get a magadalon (I know I spelled it wrong and kinda even feel like I have the name off too). I do really like the authentic look of the double claw and eagle claw. if someone had told me I'd still be playing with "pellet guns" at 40 I wouldn't have believed them haha. I don't know if I mentioned it but the double claw is really loud, of course it was my first one and I was expecting a Daisy bb gun I guess. I've yet to try a arrow, knowing they'll likely be one time and gone like my crossbow is known for

 

[markhooper]

well I am waiting on a Donny FL from Montana airguns.. should be here this week. the SS is ok but the regular Condor is way too loud.. I didn't think it would be anymore than a 22lr but it sounds more like a 22wmr.. hopefully the Donny will quiet it down and then I will have a long distance gun.. if it all works out, I'll pass on the good deal on the SS Condor 22 caliber to someone else..if not I'll just keep the Condor SS 22 caliber.
Mark