Long range choice

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Keyman62421

Keyman62421

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Its time to retire the gen 1 Impact. I shoot 100 - 300. I'm fx'd put . Realizing I have an original, I still have bad taste due to the MANY repairs. Couldn't get one any way. I'm not convinced the Deltawolf is proven. Lot of money for the trouble I've read!.

I want as light gun as reasonable. Stay with 25 cal. I know it's basically bench shooting however that's all the HEAVY guns will ever be. ACCURACY paramount. RELIABILITY. Is paramount. Ease of repair (they all need something sometime) have Maverick 25 compact. Would put a barrel on it if you could get one. Probably prefer to go 22 on it. Any go no go 25 vs 22 maverick?

I am willing to enter the impact price range if necessary. Would prefer a lot less. carried M60 for over a year. I know automatic fire. Cool but longevity is questionable, especially on an airgun. The LCS sure looks good, I wouldn't rapid fire ( I guess 😎). Uragan? 

Red wolf, Little high. But, I'm asking for suggestions, no holds barred! Can't get pellets anyway, so I have time to think it over. 

Start shooting, got time w/ no ammo, I can take my time!
 
If you are worried about RAW noise then just budget a little more and speak with Neil Clague after you get your gun. My experience with the difference between the original AF offset moderator and the NC custom moderator on my .25 RAW is night-and-day. NC's design, while just a little longer, is much quieter and I believe improved accuracy just a bit.

But if you purchase directly from Martin, as recommended above, this all might be moot as Martin's moderator design on the original RAWs was better than anything which has come out of AF in my opinion.

I'm also a fan of RW's for long range shooting. But you want the Safari level of power. So either get a Safari, or make sure that the RW you purchase has the GCU 2 electronics. I don't have any specific experience with a .25 cal RW, but the high power .22's are excellent for longer range work. And there is just something I have noticed about my Daystates in .25 cal (Pulsar and Wolverine HP): They all seemed to chamber .25 cal pellets a little roughly. Other calibers - no problem, smooth as butter, but .25 cal was just different. Steve Scialli also mentions this in one of the Daystate .25's he reviewed. And my accuracy with Daystates in .25 cal has never rivaled what it is in other calibers. YMMV.

And RW noise? Well, with a little 0dB on my HP .22, I was shooting with some friends (who were shooting their Crown .25's) and whenever I took a shot they thought that my gun was broken. Until they looked at the target group. Very efficient use of air with the RWs = less noise for the power they are putting out.

I like the Crowns as well but for me they can't hold the same accuracy as RAWs and RWs at longer range. But that could very well be on the shooter. But Crowns these days are pretty much as easy to find as Impacts. I can personally shoot a long Crown off the bench much more accurately than a long Impact. I especially love the new GRS stocks - very comfortable and stable for me. And less to go wrong on a Crown as compared to an Impact.

These first world problems are tough!
 
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Long range or 100+ yards I default to slugs and sadly there aren’t many guns out there shoot slugs well out of box yet. Maverick with .22 superior or heavy liner will be very hard to beat in that respect and you already own it. Tune your Maverick to be your dedicated long range slug slinger and done! Put a 25 heavy barrel on and you can shoot slugs with BC of 0.11 right out of box is awesome!



If you stick with pellets the options are endless, personally I like unregulated guns for pellets now because good quality unregulated guns are just unbelievably reliable and consistent. with all the talks of power and long range we are forgetting just how good a good quality basic unregulated pellet guns are. You mentioned accuracy, simplicity and reliability then I highly recommend you to look at some old school BSA, AA and Daystate but pellets at 100+ is not that fun.


if you only shoot 100-300, want another gun AND don’t want a FX then the uragan seems to have some great results but not sure about out of the box. @knifemaker did a lot of work to his, I would reach out to him for some info about his. Given his results uragan would my first non-FX option to look at.

Redwolf seems to have great results with certain slugs but darn expensive or well above impact price. 




 
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RAW is an excellent option and Martin is now making shrouds with the standard 1/2 UNF end cap so a Donny/Hugget etc. Can be added.

A RAW .30 is a thing if beauty at 100 yards and of course the Red Wolf Safari is a great option...

The Delta Wolf is an up and comer and in.25 or .30 will easily compete... 

Pic of new RAW shroud/end cap

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The AGT Uragan is an excellent choice and Derrick Wall can sure make em sing....I have a tuned DWall. 30 Uragan and is a lights out shooter and can also be tuned for slugs if desired.

The Kalibr Cricket Tactical is another great option....I have a .30 and it shoots the 50 grain JSB and FX pellets at 870 just hole in hole....The 44 grains at 915 are just as well and slugs in the 50 grain range seem to show real promise. I am not a huge slug guy but from my limited testing no doubt could be tuned for such ammunition.

FX Crown in 700mm configuration is a proven winner, although long but off the bench is a non issue.




 
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Though my regular field target rifle is a RAW, it is probably the shortest and lightest RAW ever built (to my specs). My only hesitation in recommending you a RAW is your high priority, "I want as light gun as reasonable". From what I can tell, RAWs have only grown in size and weight since mine was built. And short as mine is, it's heavy for its length despite Martin making it to my same high priority as your's, "I want as light gun as reasonable".

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RAW is an excellent option and Martin is now making shrouds with the standard 1/2 UNF end cap so a Donny/Hugget etc. Can be added.

A RAW .30 is a thing if beauty at 100 yards and of course the Red Wolf Safari is a great option...

The Delta Wolf is an up and comer and in.25 or .30 will easily compete... 

Pic of new RAW shroud/end cap

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Where did you find out about this shroud/end cap?
 
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Steve, your criteria screams “RAW.” I have two of them now. One in a .25 in walnut. One in a .22 chassis.


Both are incredible shooters, they are built solid, and extremely simple to operate and maintain. My .25 is about four years old now - not one issue.

I have now switched over to NSA slugs with both. The accuracy is great and they are really consistent in all regards.


Feel free to come up and try one if you want.


DZ



 
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