HW/Weihrauch Look what UPS just dropped off. A 77 Mk1.

[Mycapt65]

Last week I posted about a rifle I won on ebay. It was a bit of money for me and I said I was done buying airguns before but BOY am I glad I bid on this.
I've always wanted a 77 with the earlier stock. I like the traditional rifle look of the longer 77 with the lower comb stocks.
Not only is this a 77 with a low comb stock. It's a Beeman 77 MK1 with a Goudy stock. Its like a time capsule. It also has the time appropriate Beeman scope, scope mount and scope stop. All in near new condition. It looks to have the original front sight hood.

Although the rear sights weren't included the sell says he can probably find them.

I actually thought the scope was mounted 90° rotated. Turns out it's not. The windage turret is on the left side.

Something I've never seen. The scope seems nice but I have yet to play with it. The gun is still acclimating to room temp and I don't know how the scope functions. Its stiff and I don't want to force it. The power ring and occular all turn together. Maybe one of you Blue Ribbon scope fans can explain it to me.

That's it from a very happy guy.

Be well all
Ron

 

[ChuckHunter]

Nice find
And yes it looks like the scope is mounted 90°off ! The AO line on scope should be on top! Serial number makes it a 25mm for sure!

 

[jccams]

Very nice Ron. Glad you got it!

 

[Mycapt65]

Very nice Ron. Glad you got it!

Thanks Jeff.

 

[EMrider]

Good to hear, and I hope it shoots as well as it looks
R

 

[Silver Ace]

Very nice! A true Beeman time capsule. It even has the Beeman Professional Scope stop. Which he touted as “one of their nicest items”.

 

[crowski]

What a score. Very nice 77. Enjoy. Crow

 

[Mycapt65]

Good to hear, and I hope it shoots as well as it looks
R

It will when I'm done with it.

 

[KWK]

Nice, well kept rig. When those turrets get stiff the plastic collars can strip and you can't get a replacement. Sell it to a Beeman scope fanboy before that happens. Get enough to pay for one of those Airmax I know you like.

 

[Mycapt65]

Nice, well kept rig. When those turrets get stiff the plastic collars can strip and you can't get a replacement. Sell it to a Beeman scope fanboy before that happens. Get enough to pay for one of those Airmax I know you like.

Thanks for the information. Everything moves smoothly as of now. I'd like to keep it all together as a time capsule. If I wind up shooting it alot I'll put my extra 2-7 Airmax on it to save wear and tear on the Beeman scope.

 

[bdzjlz]

Last week I posted about a rifle I won on ebay. It was a bit of money for me and I said I was done buying airguns before but BOY am I glad I bid on this.
I've always wanted a 77 with the earlier stock. I like the traditional rifle look of the longer 77 with the lower comb stocks.
Not only is this a 77 with a low comb stock. It's a Beeman 77 MK1 with a Goudy stock. Its like a time capsule. It also has the time appropriate Beeman scope, scope mount and scope stop. All in near new condition. It looks to have the original front sight hood.View attachment 526554 Although the rear sights weren't included the sell says he can probably find them.
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I actually thought the scope was mounted 90° rotated. Turns out it's not. The windage turret is on the left side.
View attachment 526553Something I've never seen. The scope seems nice but I have yet to play with it. The gun is still acclimating to room temp and I don't know how the scope functions. Its stiff and I don't want to force it. The power ring and occular all turn together. Maybe one of you Blue Ribbon scope fans can explain it to me.
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That's it from a very happy guy.

Be well all
Ron

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Very nice...

 

[bustachip]

Last week I posted about a rifle I won on ebay. It was a bit of money for me and I said I was done buying airguns before but BOY am I glad I bid on this.
I've always wanted a 77 with the earlier stock. I like the traditional rifle look of the longer 77 with the lower comb stocks.
Not only is this a 77 with a low comb stock. It's a Beeman 77 MK1 with a Goudy stock. Its like a time capsule. It also has the time appropriate Beeman scope, scope mount and scope stop. All in near new condition. It looks to have the original front sight hood.View attachment 526554 Although the rear sights weren't included the sell says he can probably find them.
View attachment 526549View attachment 526550View attachment 526547View attachment 526551View attachment 526552
I actually thought the scope was mounted 90° rotated. Turns out it's not. The windage turret is on the left side.
View attachment 526553Something I've never seen. The scope seems nice but I have yet to play with it. The gun is still acclimating to room temp and I don't know how the scope functions. Its stiff and I don't want to force it. The power ring and occular all turn together. Maybe one of you Blue Ribbon scope fans can explain it to me.
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That's it from a very happy guy.

Be well all
Ron

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Looks mint to me, even the butt pad is cool. Nice
find, I'll be following along for the tune up.

 

[Mycapt65]

Looks mint to me, even the butt pad is cool. Nice
find, I'll be following along for the tune up.

I'm not sure what to do with that. With a 25mm piston I'm not sure if I want to use a standard 97/77 kit.

 

[bustachip]

I'm not sure what to do with that. With a 25mm piston I'm not sure if I want to use a standard 97/77 kit.

That's what makes it's interesting. JM might point you in the right direction as far as a spring.
Or whoever you buy from.

 

[.20calguy]

Last week I posted about a rifle I won on ebay. It was a bit of money for me and I said I was done buying airguns before but BOY am I glad I bid on this.
I've always wanted a 77 with the earlier stock. I like the traditional rifle look of the longer 77 with the lower comb stocks.
Not only is this a 77 with a low comb stock. It's a Beeman 77 MK1 with a Goudy stock. Its like a time capsule. It also has the time appropriate Beeman scope, scope mount and scope stop. All in near new condition. It looks to have the original front sight hood.View attachment 526554 Although the rear sights weren't included the sell says he can probably find them.
View attachment 526549View attachment 526550View attachment 526547View attachment 526551View attachment 526552
I actually thought the scope was mounted 90° rotated. Turns out it's not. The windage turret is on the left side.
View attachment 526553Something I've never seen. The scope seems nice but I have yet to play with it. The gun is still acclimating to room temp and I don't know how the scope functions. Its stiff and I don't want to force it. The power ring and occular all turn together. Maybe one of you Blue Ribbon scope fans can explain it to me.
View attachment 526555View attachment 526556View attachment 526557

That's it from a very happy guy.

Be well all
Ron

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Wow Ron!
That's an awesome piece there.

 

[Mycapt65]

Wow Ron!
That's an awesome piece there.

Thank you. I feel very lucky to have gotten it. I think the only reason I won it was because it was listed during the holidays and few people saw it. The same model without a scope and rear sights went for over 900 a month or so before. I didn't think I'd get this one with the scope and all. I figured it'd go over a grand. Or close to it. I wouldn't (couldn't) have spent that. Had I realized it was an early MK1 I might have given up without bidding.

Be well
Ron

 

[.20calguy]

Thank you. I feel very lucky to have gotten it. I think the only reason I won it was because it was listed during the holidays and few people saw it. The same model without a scope and rear sights went for over 900 a month or so before. I didn't think I'd get this one with the scope and all. I figured it'd go over a grand. Or close to it. I wouldn't (couldn't) have spent that. Had I realized it was an early MK1 I might have given up without bidding.

Be well
Ron

The Mark 1 has a different comp tube and associated parts I gather?
What are the + & -, of that?
All the best

 

[MDriskill]

Wow Ron, what a beauty! I'm old enuff to remember lusting over them when they were new in the hallowed Beeman catalog. I'm envious and look forward to seeing how she performs after you've done your usual expert comb-through of it. HW never made a better-looking sporter rifle than that.

.20calguy, yes the early HW 77 uses a 25mm piston seal, same as the HW 30, HW 55, original HW 50, etc. Newer ones use a bigger seal and have a bit more power but the early ones are revered for smooth shooting and (obviously!) looks.

 

[Mycapt65]

The Mark 1 has a different comp tube and associated parts I gather?
What are the + & -, of that?
All the best

The Mark 1 to the best of my knowledge is the earliest 77 version made. It uses a 25mm piston and sliding compression tube. The advantage of that is the reduced piston weight reduces recoil energy. I don't have to explain how that benefits accuracy to you.

A smaller diameter pistion has less surface area so it's less prone to piston bounce under the same back pressure. Similar to hydraulic theory wher a smaller pistion moves further but requires less pressure to move than a larger piston under the same load.

Also a smaller piston seal has less surface area. Less surface are reduces thermal expansion issues because the expansion disparity between the steel tube and piston seal is less. This is why why my 25mm Hw30s suffer less TE issues than my 26mm 50, 95 & 97. Those in turn suffer less TE issues than my R1.

Incidentlly AA TXs run 25mm pistons with hollow seals that experience less TE than the same size Weihrauch full cap style piston seals. For all the reasons above, 97s that are tuned for FT will sometimes run 25mm pistons when available. More serious FT 97s look nothing like the original inside.

The outer receiver on the Mark 1 is the same as the later 77/97 series. All you need to convert a later gun to 25mm is the piston and sliding comp tube. Another perk of that is all the guns use the same stock inletting, so stocks are interchangeable. For instance I can put my Goudy 77 stock on my late model Laminate 97 and vice versa.

It's just been brought to my attention that the Mark 1 has a different non removable front sight. The cocking arm release is simpler with no button. I'm not used to that. I keep pressing a button that isn't there .

The loading port is a little smaller on the Mark 1 as well. When these guns first came out they were very popular FT rifles. Several custom shops would mill these open for easier loading during competition. Shortening the barrels to reduce dwell time and muzzle flip was another popular mod. Weihrauch incorporated threes popular mods in the next generation of underlevers with the introduction of the 77K and 97K.

That's all the differences I know of. Oh wait one more the Mark 1 has no ABT so it can be decocked. I guess it predates our ridiculous litigious society.

Be well
Ron

 

[Bear-of-Grayling]

Congratulations Ron! Once in while the stars do align. Could not have happened to a nicer guy.