looking 4 Most powerful n compact pcp

[hvack]

"elmerfudd"

"hvack"Looking for the most compact pcp there is with as close to 50 fpe I can get and quiet, lease expensive as possible.

I read your post and it made laugh. Sounds like you're in search of a unicorn. The only airgun that would fit your length, power and possibly quietness criteria is a Mutant Short .30 cal or Cricket Compact .25 cal. Both are custom built and only 1 of each are in existence. The latter was recently sold on this very forum back on October. Maybe you can track down the new owner and made an offer. Otherwise you'll have to pay a heavy price and commission one to be built to suit your needs.

It can be above 50 fpe just not a lot less. ( btw glad I could make you smile ) You are right mutant .25 or .30 cricket compact or the new evinex rex is looking good... thanks for the link.....ericgs

 

[elmerfudd]

This is just my opinion but given the yardage you want to shoot within and the pest that you're after, I don't think you need the power (FPE) that you're after. It's only 50 yards right? A .25 Vulcan at 26" is probably your best bet if you need something immediately. If you're concerned about weight, just get a lighter scope. If you had plans to put a 30oz Hawke on it, that's counter-intuitive. The same goes for a bi-pod if you're weight conscious. I think what you're not realizing is we live in a world of trade-offs. You're looking for the holy grail of airgun/bullpup that doesn't exist and simply impossible to obtain if you're budget conscious as well. Some viable options are on the current market comes close but you're asking for a lot of power in a small quiet package? Simply not possible as a plug-and-play solution you're seeking. You need a powder burner with a special permit for something like that but you'll end up doing more damage to your property than you'd like.

 

[22_V_Varmint]

From what I have read, Brocock is coming out with a .25 version of their new airgun called "Compatto." The overall length is stated to be around 34" and it's a "semi-bullpup" design. I'd suggest looking into it. The accuracy (when you find the right pellet obviously) should be no problem, as i have heard reports of american quarter-sized grouping at 50 yards out of the Compatto and most other Brocock airguns. Either that, OR you could wait for Air Arms to release their new bullpup, deemed "Galahad." Air Arms have lothar walther barrels, therefore, you will get accuracy at 50 yards, I promise... but then again, Brocock has LW barrels too. Seeing that compared to some other airguns, both of these options are reasonably priced, this comes down to you deciding. The carbine version of the Galahad is stated to be a length of 31.6" and the rifle version is 35.5". so, now its just a matter of picking your poison I guess... If you're looking to be quiet as well, you can get a Hugget moderator, as is optional from Airguns of Arizona, for the Brocock. Honestly, out of the choices you've been given on this topic, I would suggest Brocock due to reliability, accuracy, silence, and budget-friendliness.

 

[zebra]

Neither the Cricket .25 or the Vulcan are particularly quiet. They are quiet (ish) for a 25 caliber. The Cricket is the quieter of the two but both are slightly shy of 50fpe and they don't fit your low cost criteria.

I don't know what you consider "low cost" but you should check out the Jkahn Krossa bullpup. Over 55fpe and they start at $800 which makes them the cheapest bullpup that is worth owning. They can be made quiet (ish) with the moderator and regulator options. The 25 cal has a LW barrel too.

Depending on how quiet you need it to be, you might want to add a Neil Clague LDC to whatever you buy. Not many 50fpe+ air guns are particularly quiet. You want a 30fpe (or less) air rifle if you want super quiet. 

I don't think you will find an air gun that meets every one of your criteria because they don't exist so you should prioritize. You should be able to get close enough if you're expectations are realistic.

I would prioritise accuracy above power. If you are hunting larger game that is beyond the capabilities of an accurate 25 caliber with average power, you should drop the low noise requirement and get a big bore. The 9mm Jkhan is the same price as the 25 caliber. 

All of the Evanix guns are loud, even in 25 caliber btw. 

 

[hvack]

"zebra"Neither the Cricket .25 or the Vulcan are particularly quiet. They are quiet (ish) for a 25 caliber. The Cricket is the quieter of the two but both are slightly shy of 50fpe and they don't fit your low cost criteria.

I don't know what you consider "low cost" but you should check out the Jkahn Krossa bullpup. Over 55fpe and they start at $800 which makes them the cheapest bullpup that is worth owning. They can be made quiet (ish) with the moderator and regulator options. The 25 cal has a LW barrel too.

Depending on how quiet you need it to be, you might want to add a Neil Clague LDC to whatever you buy. Not many 50fpe+ air guns are particularly quiet. You want a 30fpe (or less) air rifle if you want super quiet. 

I don't think you will find an air gun that meets every one of your criteria because they don't exist so you should prioritize. You should be able to get close enough if you're expectations are realistic.

I would prioritise accuracy above power. If you are hunting larger game that is beyond the capabilities of an accurate 25 caliber with average power, you should drop the low noise requirement and get a big bore. The 9mm Jkhan is the same price as the 25 caliber. 

All of the Evanix guns are loud, even in 25 caliber btw.

You are right accuracy is on the top and cost is at the bottom of the priority list...

 

[scotty]

Wicked Air Rifles is developing a pistol/carbine. I understand its going to be similar in performance to the Flex that that is so well reviewed. Something like WAR-P for the name. Various interchangeable calibers, powerful, accurate and quiet are the backbone of the design. I don't know the price or release date, but it looks very interesting. I'll bet it will be the most powerful accurate and quiet gun you can find when it hits the market.