Looking for inexpensive scopes and range finders

My experience has been that they all will read branches. Most of the used scopes you will find in classifieds are good deals. You can get a better than cheap for a cheap price. I have purchased at least 5 scopes from classifieds for half the price of new. Take a look at what is offered, read the reviews online for that particular scope. If the reviews are good and the price fits your wallet, go for it.
 
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As the thread title states, what are some of the best inexpensive scopes and range finder? I do small game with air guns and the cheap range finder I have keeps reading branches in front of it. Let me know what you recommend. Anything around $300 and under.
I use a Vortex Ranger 1300. I've had it for about 7 years and it has worked perfectly fine. I have never replaced the battery and it still show on the display as full battery. Plus they have life time warranty and good customer service.
 
My experience has been that they all will read branches. Most of the used scopes you will find in classifieds are good deals. You can get a better than cheap for a cheap price. I have purchased at least 5 scopes from classifieds for half the price of new. Take a look at what is offered, read the reviews online for that particular scope. If the reviews are good and the price fits your wallet, go for it.
There's a "brush" feature on the Bushnell Broadhead range finder that will try to avoid marking brush. This range finder has great reviews.

 
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The Bushnell Broadhead range finder is the best and most accurate for archery and airgun distances. It will work at firearm ranges as well. Here's a review of it.

The Bushnell Prime 1800 (model LP1800AD) is a much better buy currently at Scheels for half price $129.99 (usually about $250 but the price varies):


I have owned this model for sevaral years. The activesync display is a lifesaver in low light situations and in high contrast stuff in daylight -- it's not just hype -- it's better than the other illuminated display types. I compared everything about the prime1800 to the broadhead and the prime1800 is the same thing but adds a rifle mode that probably most people don't use. It doesn't hurt that's it's there -- just don't use it. There are amazon reviews on the prime 1800 even though they don't have it in stock currently as far as I can tell. Check out the reviews. One by andyh points out that the prime 1800 is the same thing as the broadhead. Bushnell just doesn't put any emphasis on marketing the prime1800. In other words, the broadhead is just an over-hyped and over-priced prime1800. [EDIT: I should not have said the Broadhead is over-hyped and over-priced. If you have a Broadhead or buy one at typical prices, then you got a good range finder at a fair price.]

Yes, it will range on twigs and stuff, but it has 3 modes that are quickly swaped with a single click. While scanning in brush mode what it does is show you the farthest thing it's ranged since you started scanning. While scanning in bulls-eye mode what it does is show you the nearest thing it's ranged since you started scanning. With neither mode enabled, it just keeps showing what its ranging regardless of if it's the farthest or the nearest. By using these modes you can get really good and pretty quick to determine if the range on that squirrel is really the squirrel rather than a twig in front of it or a branch behind it. I've ranged stuff out to over 1700 yards. The specs don't mention it, but it measures in feet if you want it to -- just like the broadhead with the same accuracy as the broadhead.

At $129.99, the bushnell prime1800 (model LP1800AD) is a super deal -- a no-brainer in my opinion.

Here's the amazon link -- they don't have any to sell, but the reviews are there.

I highly recommend the bushnell prime 1800 rangefinder. There's no bluetooth stuff -- don't confuse it with the nitro1800 -- they're different critters and I personally like the prime 1800 better.

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The Bushnell Prime 1800 (model LP1800AD) is a much better buy currently at Scheels for half price $129.99 (usually about $250 but the price varies):


I have owned this model for sevaral years. The activesync display is a lifesaver in low light situations and in high contrast stuff in daylight -- it's not just hype -- it's better than the other illuminated display types. I compared everything about the prime1800 to the broadhead and the prime1800 is the same thing but adds a rifle mode that probably most people don't use. It doesn't hurt that's it's there -- just don't use it. There are amazon reviews on the prime 1800 even though they don't have it in stock currently as far as I can tell. Check out the reviews. One by andyh points out that the prime 1800 is the same thing as the broadhead. Bushnell just doesn't put any emphasis on marketing the prime1800. In other words, the broadhead is just an over-hyped and over-priced prime1800.

Yes, it will range on twigs and stuff, but it has 3 modes that are quickly swaped with a single click. While scanning in brush mode what it does is show you the farthest thing it's ranged since you started scanning. While scanning in bulls-eye mode what it does is show you the nearest thing it's ranged since you started scanning. With neither mode enabled, it just keeps showing what its ranging regardless of if it's the farthest or the nearest. By using these modes you can get really good and pretty quick to determine if the range on that squirrel is really the squirrel rather than a twig in front of it or a branch behind it. I've ranged stuff out to over 1700 yards. The specs don't mention it, but it measures in feet if you want it to -- just like the broadhead with the same accuracy as the broadhead.

At $129.99, the bushnell prime1800 (model LP1800AD) is a super deal -- a no-brainer in my opinion.

Here's the amazon link -- they don't have any to sell, but the reviews are there.

I highly recommend the bushnell prime 1800 rangefinder. There's no bluetooth stuff -- don't confuse it with the nitro1800 -- they're different critters and I personally like the prime 1800 better.

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Thanks for the head's up on the two models. Close range accuracy is what matters, so if they are the same I'll give one a shot and save $$ a for some more lead.
 
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Thanks for the head's up on the two models. Close range accuracy is what matters, so if they are the same I'll give one a shot and save $$ a for some more lead.
Close range accuracy with the prime 1800 is some fraction of a foot, exactly like the broadhead. In setup mode you set it to measure in feet by skipping yards and meters and then you see neither a Y or an M -- you don't see an F either but it's measuring in feet -- actually some fraction of that. I ranged a squirrel walking around in my back yard. Started at about 7 feet away -- takes a step and measures about 7.5 feet, takes a step and measures 8 feet, etc. Seriously, the broadhead is a prime 1800 marketed to get the attention of bow hunters and with a marked up price. I paid $250 for my prime 1800 -- I've had it for several years and I still love it and don't have a single regret.

Edit: I just now checked at close range in the house with feet as the measurements. Closest it can measure is 15 feet. As I back away from the wall measurements increase by 0.5 feet. So 15 feet, 15.5 feet, 16 feet, 16.5 feet, 17 feet, 17.5 feet, etc.

Edit: I wondered how far away I could measure in feet and still get readings in half-foot increments. So I just now went outside and ranged some trees farther and farther away -- dark outside, but with city lights behind them. The farthest tree I could actually see a silouette of was 1109.5 feet.

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The Bushnell Prime 1800 (model LP1800AD) is a much better buy currently at Scheels for half price $129.99 (usually about $250 but the price varies):


I have owned this model for sevaral years. The activesync display is a lifesaver in low light situations and in high contrast stuff in daylight -- it's not just hype -- it's better than the other illuminated display types. I compared everything about the prime1800 to the broadhead and the prime1800 is the same thing but adds a rifle mode that probably most people don't use. It doesn't hurt that's it's there -- just don't use it. There are amazon reviews on the prime 1800 even though they don't have it in stock currently as far as I can tell. Check out the reviews. One by andyh points out that the prime 1800 is the same thing as the broadhead. Bushnell just doesn't put any emphasis on marketing the prime1800. In other words, the broadhead is just an over-hyped and over-priced prime1800.

Yes, it will range on twigs and stuff, but it has 3 modes that are quickly swaped with a single click. While scanning in brush mode what it does is show you the farthest thing it's ranged since you started scanning. While scanning in bulls-eye mode what it does is show you the nearest thing it's ranged since you started scanning. With neither mode enabled, it just keeps showing what its ranging regardless of if it's the farthest or the nearest. By using these modes you can get really good and pretty quick to determine if the range on that squirrel is really the squirrel rather than a twig in front of it or a branch behind it. I've ranged stuff out to over 1700 yards. The specs don't mention it, but it measures in feet if you want it to -- just like the broadhead with the same accuracy as the broadhead.

At $129.99, the bushnell prime1800 (model LP1800AD) is a super deal -- a no-brainer in my opinion.

Here's the amazon link -- they don't have any to sell, but the reviews are there.

I highly recommend the bushnell prime 1800 rangefinder. There's no bluetooth stuff -- don't confuse it with the nitro1800 -- they're different critters and I personally like the prime 1800 better.

stovepipe
Thanks for that. I may have to add this to my arsenal. Lots of amazon reviews are saying it's better than some $500 range finders!
 
Thanks for that. I may have to add this to my arsenal. Lots of amazon reviews are saying it's better than some $500 range finders!
Seriously, I wouldn't wait too long -- I've seen it at this $129 price before over the years, but it doesn't last long and goes back up to $250. Also, see my edit to the above post for accuracy in feet with 0.5 foot resolution.

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Seriously, I wouldn't wait too long -- I've seen it at this $129 price before over the years, but it doesn't last long and goes back up to $250. Also, see my edit to the above post for accuracy in feet with 0.5 foot resolution.

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I just placed an order. Now, looking for a decent quality scopes... I don't know what to look for. Any tips on choosing a scope?
 
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I just placed an order. Now, looking for a decent quality scopes... I don't know what to look for. Any tips on choosing a scope?
Good move on the range finder. The battery that comes pre-installed is a cheap one, of course. It takes CR2 lithium 3-volt batteries. Any quality will work, but make sure to get low self-discharge batteries. I think the range finder was an easy decision especially at the price. Once you receive it and try it out, please let us know what you think about it.

Choosing a rifle scope requires taking a lot into consideration. You might be well off to start a separate thread for just scope recommendations and state what price you are willing to pay. There lots of guys here that have tried and own lots of scopes, so they have compared many scopes first hand. I'm not one of those guys. I spent months trying to decide on one scope very specific to my needs with a $500 budget -- ended up spending $600 but I made the right choice for me. I'm really glad that buying decision is over with and that I have no regrets.

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I just placed an order. Now, looking for a decent quality scopes... I don't know what to look for. Any tips on choosing a scope?
Make a list of desired qualities of the scope. The list include magnification range, tube size, length and weight, objective bell size, reticle style, illuminated or not, first or second focal plane, cost, lifetime warranty, etc. All these desired qualities should revolve around the intended use (ypu might not want a big baseball bat of a scope on a hunting rig).
 
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Any tips on choosing a scope?
OK, so let's start at the top. Your first post says you hunt small game with air rifles. So what range(s)? For some guys small game is ground squirrels at 200 yards. For others it's tree squirrels at no more than 50 yards. For other guys it's a large gammit -- like anything from 20 yards to 200 yards. Where do you fit into this and what is your budget for a scope?

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OK, so let's start at the top. Your first post says you hunt small game with air rifles. So what range(s)? For some guys small game is ground squirrels at 200 yards. For others it's tree squirrels at no more than 50 yards. For other guys it's a large gammit -- like anything from 20 yards to 200 yards. Where do you fit into this and what is your budget for a scope?

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I'm hunting tree squirrels 99% of the time. Farthest shot would probably be 60 yards. Budget would be around $300 range. I was looking at Hawke's website and was thinking of this one or something similar. But before buying I'd guess it'll be a smart idea to understand MOA vs MIL.

 
I'm hunting tree squirrels 99% of the time. Farthest shot would probably be 60 yards. Budget would be around $300 range. I was looking at Hawke's website and was thinking of this one or something similar. But before buying I'd guess it'll be a smart idea to understand MOA vs MIL.

Are you using break-barrel (springer) rifles? They have a nasty double recoil that kills scopes dead unless the scope is intentionally designed to handle it.

EDIT: Nevermind my question -- I see (from other thread) that you are using a Zelos (pcp, not breakbarrel).

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I'm hunting tree squirrels 99% of the time. Farthest shot would probably be 60 yards. Budget would be around $300 range. I was looking at Hawke's website and was thinking of this one or something similar. But before buying I'd guess it'll be a smart idea to understand MOA vs MIL.

It seems to me that you should be able to get a first focal plane scope in that $300 ish budget that is of reasonable quality. Even though you're not expecting to shoot more than 60 yards, that's still far enough to want angular markings on your reticle that are correct at any magnification.

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If getting a First Focal Plane scope (which I recommend) it does not really matter whether you use MIL or MOA. The reason being, both scope's turrets will (should) click and adjust per the reticle markings. Basically, what you see in the scope's hash marks from the center dot to where the impact is will be how much turret clicking needs to take place.

Read through this thread and see if this scope has all the specs on your list. These are such a good little scope I've bought two since making the thread on the experiment. What is about the coolest thing I found is, though its FFP and with a parallax adjustment, parallax can be set to around 40 yards and is virtually parallax free and the image clear at all but the closest yardages.