Can't bring myself to do that to any animal. Caught alot of them when going after stray cats and learned catnip works better for cats and you get less wild animals than pet food.
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Snowpeak M60B 30 cal. Anyone?
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Trapping them, and dropping them off in an entirely unknown location, is actually often less “humane”. Just because the blood isn’t directly on your hands, doesn’t mean you didn’t do any harm.
In a brand new location, they’re far more likely to get their a$$ kicked by the dominant animal of that same species in that area, eaten by a predator because they don’t know the area, starve to death because they don’t know where to get food, or hit by a car trying to find their way home….. than they are to go about normal life.
If you’re going to take a mammal out of its home environment, you might as well kill it…. Because that’s far more “humane” than almost every other alternative. And…. If none of the above happen, it’s probably going to end up right back in your yard.
Some animals just need killed, in order to preserve your space. Not really a way to have your cake and eat it too.
In a brand new location, they’re far more likely to get their a$$ kicked by the dominant animal of that same species in that area, eaten by a predator because they don’t know the area, starve to death because they don’t know where to get food, or hit by a car trying to find their way home….. than they are to go about normal life.
If you’re going to take a mammal out of its home environment, you might as well kill it…. Because that’s far more “humane” than almost every other alternative. And…. If none of the above happen, it’s probably going to end up right back in your yard.
Some animals just need killed, in order to preserve your space. Not really a way to have your cake and eat it too.
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Sounds like some crazy justification for absconding yourself from killing an animal, by not directly killing it yourself.
That’s like being a vegetarian…. and wearing leather boots.
That’s like being a vegetarian…. and wearing leather boots.
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I was talking about drowning them in a cage. Too cold blooded for me. No problem with giving them a quick death.
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Yeah, I'm not going to drown them either. That's almost as bad as what my dad did to a groundhog he caught in a live trap. He has his old marine corp saber, and he stuck this thing to death thru the cage. That thing screamed all the way home to heaven.
As for the coons, ghogs, and dillos... I specifically bought this 30 cal for those larger pests. Not that I'm opposed to popping squirrels and birds with it either, but a 70 fpe 30 cal should lights out a medium sized critter better than my 50 fpe 25 or 30 fpe 22.
As for the coons, ghogs, and dillos... I specifically bought this 30 cal for those larger pests. Not that I'm opposed to popping squirrels and birds with it either, but a 70 fpe 30 cal should lights out a medium sized critter better than my 50 fpe 25 or 30 fpe 22.
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I’m not against it. Do whatever you do….just 100000000% disagree with the thought you are doing better by the critter as it drowns in a cage. Just want to put it out there. If anyone abducts me please throw my azz out in a field somewhere. I’ll take my chances with that.
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What if my relocation helps him find his soul mate and they make lovely babies and die old together. Gotta think glass half full man.
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I'm thinking you're going to relocate the coons the same way you.... uhh... relocate squirrels lol.
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Query @bigbuck89 … he is proof of concept… His results with the M60… check the link
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M60 are another groundhog
I’ve taken 31 whistle pigs since June 30. This evening the temperature dropped down to 70 degrees and it was just great to be outside.
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With a wildlife ecology college degree I can say objectively say with confidence that trapping nuisance coons and dropping them off in another strange location is not inhumane. They are wild animals and can easily feed themselves and live off the land., wherever they are. Sure they learn quickly how to raid a garbage can if it is carelessly left open by humans, but they are tough and can protect themselves from predators as well. In Oklahoma they are conserved under the state furbearer trapping season regulations, so I don't shoot them out of season. Because of my background and education I am more sensitive to wildlife conservation laws than many others (I have stated my opinion before on taking squirrels out of season as well) but I am not trying to be judgmental on this forum, just stating my personal opinion, which is like an AH . . . everybody has one! 
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Got a small one already. The wife and son are feeding it bread heals through the cage. After our morning cinnamon rolls, he will get a trip down to the river with plenty of woods and farm land a mile and a half away. Should be fine.
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Trapping and relocating seem like a reasonable thing to do when raccoons are not in season - not legal to shoot. If they are in season I would just shoot them. The one time I think it is defensible to shoot them out of season is if there is good reason to believe they are rabid and could infect pets or people. I'm unsure if that is legal but I think it is defensible. I also would be pretty tempted to use a gun if they had repeatedly killed poultry or pets.
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Already got #2 trapped and ready to go. May just go drop him off tonight and see if I can get another in the same night.
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I know it's an older thread but what's the state of the factory moderator? I've read it's a hollow tube with no baffles. Does it do any good with sound reduction? Do you know if anyone makes baffles you can use in it?
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Just want to say again that your valve kit is worth the money. It added a ton of power to my 30 cal. So much so, that it's too loud to shoot now lol.
112 fpe @ 180 bar with full barrel. It's now doing 90 fpe @ 160 bar with 6.5" of barrel cut off.
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Six-inch metal tube made up of five screwed together sections, each section has metal plate, on exit end, with .45-inch center hole. Moderator effective, pellet striking wooden target much louder than firing, though depinger might help. Not aware of aftermarket baffles. WM
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Much appreciated. I'm going to hope somebody gets around to 3D printing some baffles that'll fit. There's no such thing as too quiet.
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Also, needs a better magazine. Mine fell out while cycling action going after some crows. Aftermarket ones available, just not for .35. WM
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