hmmm your getting all ghetto on us
Lol, if it works...
And especially if it works better...
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MAC1 USFT Analysis/Overview
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Lol, if it works...
And especially if it works better...
If you ever have the opportunity to shoot up here in PA, particularly Palmyra, trigger sticks won’t go high enough for some of the evil up hill shots we have to take! Just wanted to give you a heads up.
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I have a set of tall trigger sticksIf you ever have the opportunity to shoot up here in PA, particularly Palmyra, trigger sticks won’t go high enough for some of the evil up hill shots we have to take! Just wanted to give you a heads up.
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Wait until you come to the nationals. MRA has two shots that are probably taken at 70 plus degrees.
Paul Cray has two shots even steeper at Whappinger Falls.
Paul Cray has two shots even steeper at Whappinger Falls.
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Come out west some June and shoot the Nevada State / GP .... Yea a whole lot of steep shots asking ARE YOU TOUGH ENOUGH
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The steep shot I think I could handle. Nevada in June, probably not.
that is terrain we do not have on the east coast, or I haven’t seen anything like it yet
that is terrain we do not have on the east coast, or I haven’t seen anything like it yet
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pretty hard to train for that in my backyard... but very off topic from our USFT over view.
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OK - here are your USFT links. First time I shot the Paul Cray course was with my USFT. The tree targets are at a distance of only 12-13 yards (ranged), but are also 11 yards up in a tree. The kill zones are now an ellipses. Needless to say, without hold-overs on this first outing I was totally lost. These aerial shots were even more difficult. Oh, and Paul Cray was 2007 FT world champ using a USFT.
Train by taking one of your targets and put it in a box that you can pull up on a rope into a tree.
Train by taking one of your targets and put it in a box that you can pull up on a rope into a tree.
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seems to me that an FT target has to be level to work properly ? so if a level target is up 30 feet in a tree you are correct the kill zone would appear to be an oval . . Also if the target were slanted down square to the shooting line of sight the target would not work , your pellet would not have the oomph to lift the face plate . interesting ! i will have to experiment . ( or we can just leave it as a tougher target is there a Troyer number for this ? )
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Yes, the targets are level, hence the oval (reduced) kill zone. Between the kill zone change and the fact that these are no more than 11-13 yards out, you sometimes have a hard time acquiring them. Just remembered that Leo from Rockville (CT) also uses high targets - so that'll be on the agenda for next years national.
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Got some of the Hunter class holdover worked out late last night. I'm a shoot it and see actual kind of guy, sometimes following along with Strelok. Started at 3.5 mils for 10 yards, got as far as 0.9mil for 18 yards before I ran out of daylight. Wanted to double check what I had the other night so ran a trap out to 55 yards right before I was out of daylight and confirmed 0.7 mil holdover for 55 yards.
Been working with a 1.2-1.3 mil holdover at 55 for the .20/13.73 just about maxed out in fps to stay legal. Not news to me, but the .177/10.34 is certainly that "flatter" that some people hate to hear about. I'm about 49/51 on the faster flatter versus slightly more loopy but better in the wind argument. The .177/10.34 being the faster/flatter and the .20/13.73 being the slower but more wind resistant. Both can be accounted for/accustomed to.
That's all with a 30ish yard zero. Should be able to hold cross hairs dead on from about 22-42 yards with the .177/10.34s from the USFT, at least at my home elevation and the high country matches where I often shoot. When I have time I'll shoot em to verify.
Been working with a 1.2-1.3 mil holdover at 55 for the .20/13.73 just about maxed out in fps to stay legal. Not news to me, but the .177/10.34 is certainly that "flatter" that some people hate to hear about. I'm about 49/51 on the faster flatter versus slightly more loopy but better in the wind argument. The .177/10.34 being the faster/flatter and the .20/13.73 being the slower but more wind resistant. Both can be accounted for/accustomed to.
That's all with a 30ish yard zero. Should be able to hold cross hairs dead on from about 22-42 yards with the .177/10.34s from the USFT, at least at my home elevation and the high country matches where I often shoot. When I have time I'll shoot em to verify.
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Got the rest of the dope and ended on this ...
5 shots @ 55 yards from stool and sticks, 16x, holdover. 10.34 pellet in there for size reference.
And this is the wind!
Lol, that kind of accuracy always makes me giggle. I always seem to forget what this rig is capable of, and then pull it out after it's sat for awhile, and then come the big smiles.
So my zero worked out to 24-42 yards. With how this particular Midas tac ranges from 20-25 yards, I think I'll reset the turrets for a zero of something like 20-38 yards instead.
5 shots @ 55 yards from stool and sticks, 16x, holdover. 10.34 pellet in there for size reference.
And this is the wind!
Lol, that kind of accuracy always makes me giggle. I always seem to forget what this rig is capable of, and then pull it out after it's sat for awhile, and then come the big smiles.
So my zero worked out to 24-42 yards. With how this particular Midas tac ranges from 20-25 yards, I think I'll reset the turrets for a zero of something like 20-38 yards instead.
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@Hottdogghands
still available, try Oregon Airgunners, they supposedly took control of assembly and show one on their site
https://airgunoregon.shop/collections/airguns?page=1
details on whether it is regulated will have to be filled in by Wayne
still available, try Oregon Airgunners, they supposedly took control of assembly and show one on their site
https://airgunoregon.shop/collections/airguns?page=1
details on whether it is regulated will have to be filled in by Wayne
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Tim McMurray was the source for about 20 years. Mac1 Airguns was the name. I'm not sure if he's still in operation as I've seen some comments saying his website is down.
So the blue one in the link above might be the best bet right now. They occasionally pop up on the classifieds but sell quickly unless they're over priced. And sometimes even sell quickly when they are overpriced. Supply and demand can do that.
As for being regulated.....generally, the long tube versions like mine are unregulated and operate off low pressure. As I've stated earlier in this thread, that's where I personally feel the magic lies in the USFT.
I found another photo of an unregulated one on my phone while digging for a regulated photo.
That digital came USFT was owned by my buddy, @steve123, and was unregulated.
Here are two photos of s regulated one. Typically, the regulated versions have a shorter section of air tube, then an external regulator, then a bottle. Neither photo are great but the best I could find. Gun in the middle here. This is another airgun friend, Rex, and his regulated USFT.
And his shooting sticks are in the way of a clear view of the regular later here....
So that break in the air tube signified "regulated version" for a long time. @cavedweller had commented recently that he had a tubed version that was regulated, via a regulator inside the tube (NOT visible externally). I understand this as a more recent development and assume it's quite a rare variety of USFT.
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Ha I laughed at that photo. Cole, not many men are brave enough to show off their four different types of camo all at one time.
Yep USFT's are for sure awesome as well as knowing the inventor of the original Simple Simon. It's a gun I never regretted owning. I doubt there is a more robust airgun on the market as over built as these are. I probably should have kept it but at the time I didn't need two FT rifles.
Yep USFT's are for sure awesome as well as knowing the inventor of the original Simple Simon. It's a gun I never regretted owning. I doubt there is a more robust airgun on the market as over built as these are. I probably should have kept it but at the time I didn't need two FT rifles.
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I owned that gun. The barrel was rusted inside and useless and it wouldn't hold air.
Gave it away. If the new owner can get to hold air he will pay me something.
Here it is in all its boat anchor glory:
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