It is more precise too.I worked with a Japanese manufacturer. I converted myself to the metric system. It is difficult to find metric tape measures in the USA. I just learned to work in metric dimensions. It is simpler.
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It is more precise too.I worked with a Japanese manufacturer. I converted myself to the metric system. It is difficult to find metric tape measures in the USA. I just learned to work in metric dimensions. It is simpler.
They may have the same potential, but like you just stated, even .05MIL is only close to the precision of 1/8MOA, meaning the point still stands that MOA is more precise than MIL. Let's add the caveat, of the predominantly available scopes today, because this is a feedback loopUnfortunately MOA and mil have EXACTLY the same potential for precision. The common adjustments available in scopes suggest a greater potential for accuracy, but .05mil adjustment scopes also exist. That would best a 1/4MOA click, and come much closer to a 1/8MOA, but honestly at that point it really is like arguing with a wall.
I do.Who cares? As long as I can hit a starling is what I am concerned with. MOS: minute of starling.
No, the point is that precision is ability to put all rounds through one hole anywhere on a target. Accuracy is the ability to put said rounds through the desired aiming point. You wanted to argue a point using minutiae, but chose to use the words incorrectly and interchangeably. I was highlighting the irony.They may have the same potential, but like you just stated, even .05MIL is only close to the precision of 1/8MOA, meaning the point still stands that MOA is more precise than MIL
You are right that they are 2 different things, which is why your immediate following statement is not. The scope does not even have to have a cross hair to have precise adjustments. It can be a 3 MOA dot and you can still move that 3 MOA dot with 1/4 MOA adjustmentsPrecision and graduations are 2 different animals. The precision in a scope is how true it is to the reticle. The graduation of the reticle determines how small an increment you can aim at. My Delta Stryker has a reticle with 0.2MIL graduations. Scopes have a whole range of reticles, both MIL and MOA
MOA has finer adjustment, I wouldn't say more precise...They may have the same potential, but like you just stated, even .05MIL is only close to the precision of 1/8MOA, meaning the point still stands that MOA is more precise than MIL. Let's add the caveat, of the predominantly available scopes today, because this is a feedback loop
the fact that it is a finer adjustment means it its the more precise of the 2MOA has finer adjustment, I wouldn't say more precise...
I don't see where I used words interchangeably, can you show me? And on shooting yes, those are definitions of precision and accuracy. However the statement is that MIL is more precise than MOA. This is a false statement. I am not talking about anything other than that. 1/8MOA is still a more precise unit of measure than .05MILNo, the point is that precision is ability to put all rounds through one hole anywhere on a target. Accuracy is the ability to put said rounds through the desired aiming point. You wanted to argue a point using minutiae, but chose to use the words incorrectly and interchangeably. I was highlighting the irony.
Yes as far as shooting well, the accuracy of your turrets (along with heaps of other things) matter more than which unit of measure the scope is in. There are still scopes with reticles in MOA and turrets in MIL or vise versa, so if you have one of those, you are gonna need a calculator for accurate dialing.If we are talking scopes isn't repeatable turrets the main hope ? It doesn't matter how small the measurement is , it is that you can repeat it every time .
sorry off topic .
Just remember, if the parts are all on the plus side of the tolerances or even the minus side of the tolerances it's going to be junk. Yes, I use to pretend to be a mechinest along with other jobs in aerospace.The .1" measurement that I see mentioned above would build a piss poor PCP gun, or ANY air powered gun for that matter !!
The "designing, machining, assembling" of these air powered guns use numbers like....001" or in same cases, more like .0001" (or whatever numbering system that's used in any given part of the world), for the designing and machining of the parts that go into building these things.
Think about THAT for just a few seconds.
DETAILS...matter.
Mike
Ash Fork , looks like a lot of area's to shoot .Just remember, if the parts are all on the plus side of the tolerances or even the minus side of the tolerances it's going to be junk. Yes, I use to pretend to be a mechinest along with other jobs in aerospace.
Only in the US. What you call precision we call dispersion, and precision for us is the combination of accuracy and dispersion. Minor point, but it doesn't half lead to some misunderstandings sometimes.And on shooting yes, those are definitions of precision and accuracy.
Yep, that's why I have my own private 100 yard shooting range. Of course having 40 acres of land helps.Ash Fork , looks like a lot of area's to shoot .