Math is Important - just a long rant

Unfortunately MOA and mil have EXACTLY the same potential for precision. The common adjustments available in scopes suggest a greater potential for accuracy, but .05mil adjustment scopes also exist. That would best a 1/4MOA click, and come much closer to a 1/8MOA, but honestly at that point it really is like arguing with a wall.
They may have the same potential, but like you just stated, even .05MIL is only close to the precision of 1/8MOA, meaning the point still stands that MOA is more precise than MIL. Let's add the caveat, of the predominantly available scopes today, because this is a feedback loop
 
They may have the same potential, but like you just stated, even .05MIL is only close to the precision of 1/8MOA, meaning the point still stands that MOA is more precise than MIL
No, the point is that precision is ability to put all rounds through one hole anywhere on a target. Accuracy is the ability to put said rounds through the desired aiming point. You wanted to argue a point using minutiae, but chose to use the words incorrectly and interchangeably. I was highlighting the irony.
 
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Precision and graduations are 2 different animals. The precision in a scope is how true it is to the reticle. The graduation of the reticle determines how small an increment you can aim at. My Delta Stryker has a reticle with 0.2MIL graduations. Scopes have a whole range of reticles, both MIL and MOA
You are right that they are 2 different things, which is why your immediate following statement is not. The scope does not even have to have a cross hair to have precise adjustments. It can be a 3 MOA dot and you can still move that 3 MOA dot with 1/4 MOA adjustments
 
They may have the same potential, but like you just stated, even .05MIL is only close to the precision of 1/8MOA, meaning the point still stands that MOA is more precise than MIL. Let's add the caveat, of the predominantly available scopes today, because this is a feedback loop
MOA has finer adjustment, I wouldn't say more precise...
 
No, the point is that precision is ability to put all rounds through one hole anywhere on a target. Accuracy is the ability to put said rounds through the desired aiming point. You wanted to argue a point using minutiae, but chose to use the words incorrectly and interchangeably. I was highlighting the irony.
I don't see where I used words interchangeably, can you show me? And on shooting yes, those are definitions of precision and accuracy. However the statement is that MIL is more precise than MOA. This is a false statement. I am not talking about anything other than that. 1/8MOA is still a more precise unit of measure than .05MIL
 
If we are talking scopes isn't repeatable turrets the main hope ? It doesn't matter how small the measurement is , it is that you can repeat it every time .

sorry off topic .
Yes as far as shooting well, the accuracy of your turrets (along with heaps of other things) matter more than which unit of measure the scope is in. There are still scopes with reticles in MOA and turrets in MIL or vise versa, so if you have one of those, you are gonna need a calculator for accurate dialing.
 
The .1" measurement that I see mentioned above would build a piss poor PCP gun, or ANY air powered gun for that matter !!

The "designing, machining, assembling" of these air powered guns use numbers like....001" or in same cases, more like .0001" (or whatever numbering system that's used in any given part of the world), for the designing and machining of the parts that go into building these things.


Think about THAT for just a few seconds.

DETAILS...matter.

Mike
 
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The .1" measurement that I see mentioned above would build a piss poor PCP gun, or ANY air powered gun for that matter !!

The "designing, machining, assembling" of these air powered guns use numbers like....001" or in same cases, more like .0001" (or whatever numbering system that's used in any given part of the world), for the designing and machining of the parts that go into building these things.


Think about THAT for just a few seconds.

DETAILS...matter.

Mike
Just remember, if the parts are all on the plus side of the tolerances or even the minus side of the tolerances it's going to be junk. Yes, I use to pretend to be a mechinest along with other jobs in aerospace.
 
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Just remember, if the parts are all on the plus side of the tolerances or even the minus side of the tolerances it's going to be junk. Yes, I use to pretend to be a mechinest along with other jobs in aerospace.
Ash Fork , looks like a lot of area's to shoot .