When filling an FX dreamline, the tube says Max fill is 230bar.. is that the rating for just the tube or the valves also?? I have a 250bar bottle on it and would like the extra couple shots from the 20psi 
Max fill psi
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Um..................
The difference would be more like 290 PSI.
20 bar = 290.07547546 psi
https://www.unitconverters.net/pressure-converter.html
The difference would be more like 290 PSI.
20 bar = 290.07547546 psi
https://www.unitconverters.net/pressure-converter.html
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FX would be far better to inquire with this directly about than on the forums, I don't think anyone here has done the calculations to determine if the entire gun assembly or just the tube is rated for the stated fill pressure...
The bottled version recommends only 220-230 fill pressure based on my brief research.
-Matt
The bottled version recommends only 220-230 fill pressure based on my brief research.
-Matt
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So I believe there is a safety margin on the max fill, that being said its really not a lot of extra shots. I stay within the specs or a little under just to baby my guns a bit.
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The FX bottles are rated to 300 bar. Given that the bottle adapter has a reg?
The Gun internals should not see that bottle pressure.
Saying that........ Does the bottle adapter have the hold for the 300 bar?
The Gun internals should not see that bottle pressure.
Saying that........ Does the bottle adapter have the hold for the 300 bar?
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Don't fill for MAX ALLOWED PRESSURE. Fill for MAX EFFICIENCY. Why are people obsessed with maximum fill pressure?
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You won’t get enough extra shots to bother with.
I would not second guess something like maximum fill pressure. Hy risk damaging your gun for a few extra shots?
And that is all it would be, a few extra shots.
I would not second guess something like maximum fill pressure. Hy risk damaging your gun for a few extra shots?
And that is all it would be, a few extra shots.
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I'm not risking damaging any gun.. if the reason the Max fill is 230 because of the tube and the valves in the gun are rated for 250 then it would be the same as my impact or any other gun..
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I'm not obsessed with Max fill pressure.. a 250bar Max fill gun is just that.. 250bar.. it's designed to hold 250bar before the regulator valve.. what is the benefit/efficiency of only filling your gun to 230bar if it can be filled to 250?? None...
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"what is the benefit/efficiency of only filling your gun to 230bar if it can be filled to 250?? None..."
While it seems that filling to MAX as possible is a good idea, if you haven't discovered it yet, your rifle will have a 'sweet spot' pressure range where it actually shoots better/more accurately within that range.
My M3 for example shoots better in the 210ish down to 160ish bar range (even though my second reg is set at 120 bar). While it shoots 'okay' if filled to 250 bar and lower than the stated 160 bar, it's not as accurate, so to me, that's a minor waste of air.
This is especially true if tuned properly.
Just my observation with my rifle.
Mike
While it seems that filling to MAX as possible is a good idea, if you haven't discovered it yet, your rifle will have a 'sweet spot' pressure range where it actually shoots better/more accurately within that range.
My M3 for example shoots better in the 210ish down to 160ish bar range (even though my second reg is set at 120 bar). While it shoots 'okay' if filled to 250 bar and lower than the stated 160 bar, it's not as accurate, so to me, that's a minor waste of air.
This is especially true if tuned properly.
Just my observation with my rifle.
Mike
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The main reason I fill my 250 bar resavore to 225-230 is to keep my cheap pump running. It's going to check out soon but it's lasted far longer than I thought it would. I have a new one ready to take it's places.
My fx 300cc bottle can take 300 bar but the rifle says 250 bar so 230 bar is fine with me , unless I'm testing a shot string .
My fx 300cc bottle can take 300 bar but the rifle says 250 bar so 230 bar is fine with me , unless I'm testing a shot string .
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I have only encountered poi shifts within the lower range of bottle air.. never top end unless I'm shooting an unregulated gun
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Don't say NONE until you've tried it & run the #'s (as in Revoman's post). Same with ANY airgun I've owned, that's why I know NONE isn't the correct response (in MY experience anyway). There have been many discussions about this here. Didn't mean you personally are obsessed about it but the many relevant posts give that general impression.
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Agreed that "none" wasn't the correct word there but my point is only that if 250bar could possibly be available over 230, why wouldn't you want to be able to have the extra air..
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Because if I fill my FX Boss to the full 250 it IS ABLE to hold it doesn't start shooting its best til around 235-240. Why waste air on an inefficient part of its capacity?
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