Yours looks pretty good. It’s got a bevel on it. Mines flat. I’ll try to get as good of picture as you did.
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Hatsan Mod 95 .22 breach question
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Sometimes the holes that are drilled and tapped in the receiver have rough burrs on the interior. The piston rubs against these burrs and it scars the piston. Now it two rough surfaces grinding against each other. This may be what you are experiencing.
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It’s beyond snug all the way through the breach. Then it gets much easier but still a nice steady tension till about 4in from the end of the barrel. Where it gets snug all the rest of the way out.
I bet I can place a 10lb weight on the push rod. And it wouldn’t push the pellet through the breach.
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I'm assuming that you are talking about the Weirauch HW-95 and not the Hatsan mod. 95, most .22 cal. Weirauch HW barrels are chambered at 5.53mm, if you are using pellets with a larger diameter such as 5.54 they will be very tight in the chamber and will progressively get harder to seat the greater diameter you go.
If you look carefully when you order pellets the head diameter is usually marked in the pellet details.
If you look carefully when you order pellets the head diameter is usually marked in the pellet details.
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Congrats, I have the HW-30 .177, HW-80K in .20 cal., and the HW-95 in .22, all great rifles, I sure you'll grow to love your HW-95.
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I've had a bunch of Hatsan 95's. Some are tight and some are loose. Not a whole lot of uniformity there. The loose ones didn't shoot as well as the tight ones.
You can polish the breech just like polishing a crown. Roll up some 400 grit paper into a little cone and go at it until it gets a little easier to seat. Polish it up with 1000 grit and it will be great.
The pellet seater idea works great. I like that duplex nail idea in this thread. I used to seat every pellet with a home made seating tool. I stopped doing it because on most of my rifles it made no difference that I could see.
I have one rifle that will fold over the skirt if you don't seat the pellet well. A Diana 34 with the angled breech face. I used a seater for 15k shots before I polished the breech. Now the pellets push right in. The FTT 5.55 heads are still tight and make my fingers sore. But most other pellets seat fine.
Some guys push their pellets through a sizer. That's pretty much what you are doing every shot with a tight bore and a seating tool. IMHO it's better to size and seat in one motion. If you need a tool to seat uniformly then that's probably the best solution.
I shoot 2 hatsan 95's. Both have tight bores and are difficult to seat some pellets flush. I just stuff them in as far as I can and slam it closed. They are both fairly accurate guns. They might be more accurate if each pellet was seated properly but probably not much.
Stuff one in there and close it. Then open it back up and look closely at the skirt. If it's not deforming it much then I wouldn't worry about it. If it's flattening the skirt then just make up a little seating tool or polish off a little material at the breech.
You can polish the breech just like polishing a crown. Roll up some 400 grit paper into a little cone and go at it until it gets a little easier to seat. Polish it up with 1000 grit and it will be great.
The pellet seater idea works great. I like that duplex nail idea in this thread. I used to seat every pellet with a home made seating tool. I stopped doing it because on most of my rifles it made no difference that I could see.
I have one rifle that will fold over the skirt if you don't seat the pellet well. A Diana 34 with the angled breech face. I used a seater for 15k shots before I polished the breech. Now the pellets push right in. The FTT 5.55 heads are still tight and make my fingers sore. But most other pellets seat fine.
Some guys push their pellets through a sizer. That's pretty much what you are doing every shot with a tight bore and a seating tool. IMHO it's better to size and seat in one motion. If you need a tool to seat uniformly then that's probably the best solution.
I shoot 2 hatsan 95's. Both have tight bores and are difficult to seat some pellets flush. I just stuff them in as far as I can and slam it closed. They are both fairly accurate guns. They might be more accurate if each pellet was seated properly but probably not much.
Stuff one in there and close it. Then open it back up and look closely at the skirt. If it's not deforming it much then I wouldn't worry about it. If it's flattening the skirt then just make up a little seating tool or polish off a little material at the breech.
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There is a whole lot more contact on the head than the skirt. It looks like it pulled lead over the entire head. A funky looking v cut to the rifling too. Rough.
A fired pellet might look better. The skirt swells up. Still it's too tight up front. It pulled lead back around the head. Even in the grooves. The rifling is obviously rough.
I just sent one back that was rough as hell. Looked like they didn't make a final pass or something. It was tight as hell too. Would grab patches and pull off lots of lint. You could see the grooves in the machine work looking in the breech. I polished it hard but not much improvement.
I sent it back to Hatsan and it was replaced.
Those guns are only $129 plus shipping at airgun depot. 30 day warranty. A bit more at Pyramid. 90 day. When I get a new one I shoot the crap out of it and send it back quick if something is wrong. If I miss the return window I send it back to Hatsan. There is Kadden and Shane that you deal with. They have been really good. I've sent so many rifles to them they are on my Christmas gift list.
I save every rifle box and the packing. You can put a lot of frequent flyer miles on a Hatsan. I suggest you pack It a suitcase and put it on a plane.
I have a couple Mod. 65 barrels. They have a liner in a plastic shroud. They interchange with the 95. There may be a little fitting to get it to work. You are welcome to try one if you want. Otherwise just request an RMA and a shipping label. They usually turn them around quick. They usually replace and not repair.
Hope it helps. I love those rifles and shoot them a lot. But I've learned not to expect too much. I've sent every one back at some point. But they all have been good shooters once they are sorted out.
It's an excellent design poorly executed. Some folks just can't stand them and I get that. When you shuffle the deck enough times you will get a good shooter. It's a love/hate relationship I guess. I get attached to a rifle after a while. The Hatsan 95 has taught me that expectations are not guaranteed and no relationship lasts forever. I have learned that $129 plus shipping is the cure for any Hatsan heartbreak. Kadden at Hatsan is my divorce lawyer. Airgun Depot can get me another Tinder date. If I get tired of a kinky relationship with my harem of Hatsans I swing with the HW for a while.
The moral of the story is when it comes to airguns a monogamous relationship is difficult to maintain. Once you get the Dianas used to the idea things go forward smoothly.
A fired pellet might look better. The skirt swells up. Still it's too tight up front. It pulled lead back around the head. Even in the grooves. The rifling is obviously rough.
I just sent one back that was rough as hell. Looked like they didn't make a final pass or something. It was tight as hell too. Would grab patches and pull off lots of lint. You could see the grooves in the machine work looking in the breech. I polished it hard but not much improvement.
I sent it back to Hatsan and it was replaced.
Those guns are only $129 plus shipping at airgun depot. 30 day warranty. A bit more at Pyramid. 90 day. When I get a new one I shoot the crap out of it and send it back quick if something is wrong. If I miss the return window I send it back to Hatsan. There is Kadden and Shane that you deal with. They have been really good. I've sent so many rifles to them they are on my Christmas gift list.
I save every rifle box and the packing. You can put a lot of frequent flyer miles on a Hatsan. I suggest you pack It a suitcase and put it on a plane.
I have a couple Mod. 65 barrels. They have a liner in a plastic shroud. They interchange with the 95. There may be a little fitting to get it to work. You are welcome to try one if you want. Otherwise just request an RMA and a shipping label. They usually turn them around quick. They usually replace and not repair.
Hope it helps. I love those rifles and shoot them a lot. But I've learned not to expect too much. I've sent every one back at some point. But they all have been good shooters once they are sorted out.
It's an excellent design poorly executed. Some folks just can't stand them and I get that. When you shuffle the deck enough times you will get a good shooter. It's a love/hate relationship I guess. I get attached to a rifle after a while. The Hatsan 95 has taught me that expectations are not guaranteed and no relationship lasts forever. I have learned that $129 plus shipping is the cure for any Hatsan heartbreak. Kadden at Hatsan is my divorce lawyer. Airgun Depot can get me another Tinder date. If I get tired of a kinky relationship with my harem of Hatsans I swing with the HW for a while.
The moral of the story is when it comes to airguns a monogamous relationship is difficult to maintain. Once you get the Dianas used to the idea things go forward smoothly.
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De nada.
If you shoot Hatsans you are going to need parts. The cast trigger parts break (part# 109 on the schematic). The safety springs break. The replacement breech seals are too big and you have to learn to trim and shim. If you shoot a scope take the rear iron sight off or it will fall of. If you shoot iron sights you have to tighten up the sloppy fit. The rough barrels are full of gunk. (I can clean a muzzleloader with fewer patches). A hundred passes with JB bore paste is always good. More is better.
The triggers need work. Some guys put longer screws and that works. It's a lot of trouble. A few strokes of a file on the trigger housing under the first stage screw is all it takes. Just .005 gets it right.
I have a little ritual I perform on every rifle before shooting it. I'll be happy to show you how I make the trigger work right and tighten up the slack in the rear sight.
After that it's all good until the trigger breaks. And it will. A new one is $35 plus shipping. If it breaks within a year they install another for free.
It's easy to replace. You have to file off the housing again to get the first stage screw to adjust. Then you shoot it again until it breaks. The little loop on part #109 breaks off the casting. Check out the schematic. It's the little thin cast loop that holds the pin.
They don't repair triggers or sell trigger parts so you have to replace the whole assembly. It's happened on every rifle I've shot more than 6-8K rounds. And a couple I only shot 50 times. So it's a problem universal to the Quattro trigger.
You can get them to be quite a nice trigger pull. You just can't get them to last very long.
That's my hatsan 101. I'm no expert nor an airgun Smith by any means. Just my observations and experience on them in the last few years. Hope it helps.
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The "N" model is the walnut stock?
I too have an HW95 in walnut. I love it. A real fine shooter.
There is 15 shots at 25 yards. The three social outcasts are when the gun bounces. It is a bit squirrelly if you don't hold it right. But the gun shoots great.
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Weihrauch HW95N Field Pro .22 Walnut
Is the one I ordered. Yours looks very nice. Love the grain on the butt end of the gunUpvote 0
The walnut is good. I'm not sure it's worth the extra you pay but it is nice. I used steel wool with a little danish oil on it. Then paste waxed it. It polishes up really nice in your hands.
I hope yours has some figuring. I hear some guys griping about them being plain. It's a crap shoot I guess. Mine didn't have much character when I took it out of the box. A little oil and some hand rubbing brought out the grain nicely. Any piece of wood can be improved upon with a little elbow grease. Hand rubbed walnut looks great even if it is a bland piece of wood. I'm sure you will be happy with it.
I had ordered the 95L and they were backordered. I got the walnut because I didn't have to wait two weeks. I'm a pretty thrifty guy and I don't usually go for the more expensive stocks but I figured what the heck. I'm happy I went ahead and got the walnut. It's a sweet little gun.
My son loves to shoot it. It's too pretty for me to shoot. I mostly just look at it and brag about it.
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