I would check your guns Orings and make sure they are compatible with CO2. And CO2 is a compressed gas liquid fill at ~750psig
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moisture in the compressed air ?
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I attempt to clear any condensed water from my Revere by dry firing 2-3 times pointed straight up after every 2-3 Hill hand pump (with desiccant) fills…
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doesn't help with oxidizers and grade d breathing air is not really that dry. The welding distributors tried to make reconstituted air 79% pure nitrogen and 21% pure oxygen and it was way to dri and caused respritory issues it dryed up your moist tissues in the respritory system so they ended up going back to compressors and filters. BTW your gun shoots a bit faster becuase of the smaller molecule in nitrogen
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Co2 is a liquid in the bottle but most uses work off the head pressure which at 70F is around 750psi , if you try to pull it down to fast you lose your head pressure if you continue to draw on it it will turn to a block of dri ice in the bottle or sometimes blow dri ice snow. I worked in the compressed gas biz for 50 years starting with Air Liquide who now owns Airgas also worked for Praxair Airco and Airgas
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some how some ome got the idea i was going to power the gun with C02 , not ! i was talking about using C02 to power an Altros bottle to bottle compressor but i can just use a home compressor to power the Altros .I talked to Altros and they said yes i can use it to compress Nitrogen to 3200PSI for my guns' low pressure Nitrogen is @ 750 ? i think. so no high 6000 psi tank to contend with .
Also the guy @ Airgas said he has breathable air for the Medical industry . so i can just get my tanks filled like a dive shop air .
Also the guy @ Airgas said he has breathable air for the Medical industry . so i can just get my tanks filled like a dive shop air .
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CO2 holds moisture like Oxygen does. Nitrogen does not. I didn't think of using 2200 or less PSI nitrogen to feed a compressor that would take it to 3000+ but I agree, that would avoid the need for a regulator that would handle 6000 psi and also provide a dry source of "air". Air is mostly nitrogen anyway so the gun should be completely compatible. Could be a good alternative if you have a reasonable supplier of the nitrogen.
But I still like my option of just putting a relatively small additional dryer filled with color changing dessicant on my YH. Didn't cost a lot and works fine. I have to open the air tube of my P35s to change the regulator and I had to do it once to change O-rings and there was no sign of moisture in either gun. After thousands of pellets and hundreds of fills. There could still be moisture in my tank, I guess, but it seems like there would be some sign of moisture in the guns if there was. Tanks is still holding 300 bar fine.
Target forge also had a lab test air from a YH and from a CS2 and with a dessicant filter, both produced air without significant moisture but only with an extra filter filled with dessicant. It's his episode 18 where he discusses the results. He tested an after market coalescing filter on the CS2 and it did not work at all. But he thinks that was due to the low air flow and he said he would add it to the YH to reduce dessicant replacement. The CS3 apparently uses this type filter. Coalescing filters depend on having enough velocity in the air and when they do, they can be effective. He tested the stock CS2 filter (which he apparently had been using) and it was terrible. High levels of moisture in the air. He also found evidence of dieseling from his YH filled with hydraulic fluid (oxygen was low and CO was high). If you are interested in this topic I recommend viewing the video.
But I still like my option of just putting a relatively small additional dryer filled with color changing dessicant on my YH. Didn't cost a lot and works fine. I have to open the air tube of my P35s to change the regulator and I had to do it once to change O-rings and there was no sign of moisture in either gun. After thousands of pellets and hundreds of fills. There could still be moisture in my tank, I guess, but it seems like there would be some sign of moisture in the guns if there was. Tanks is still holding 300 bar fine.
Target forge also had a lab test air from a YH and from a CS2 and with a dessicant filter, both produced air without significant moisture but only with an extra filter filled with dessicant. It's his episode 18 where he discusses the results. He tested an after market coalescing filter on the CS2 and it did not work at all. But he thinks that was due to the low air flow and he said he would add it to the YH to reduce dessicant replacement. The CS3 apparently uses this type filter. Coalescing filters depend on having enough velocity in the air and when they do, they can be effective. He tested the stock CS2 filter (which he apparently had been using) and it was terrible. High levels of moisture in the air. He also found evidence of dieseling from his YH filled with hydraulic fluid (oxygen was low and CO was high). If you are interested in this topic I recommend viewing the video.
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Yep just feed about 15-20 psi nitrogen to the input side of the compressor , The Altaros may be able to take higher input on the nitrogen feed just have to ask them
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