N/A Mordax vs Huben GK1

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Is the Mordax worth the extra investment?
I’m considering purchasing one of these, and both seem to perform well, each with its own advantages and drawbacks.

What stands out to me about the Mordax is the full-auto capability and the removable magazine, which are pretty appealing features. On the other hand, the Huben’s more affordable price tag is definitely a factor to consider.


From what I’ve gathered, both can handle slugs (correct me if I am wrong), so performance in that regard seems comparable. However, I’ve heard that not just any air compressor can handle the pressure needed to fully charge the Huben’s cylinder, which could be a downside if you don't already have a high-pressure compressor.

Also, I would like to know:
1-if optics needed if you are just going for 30 yard.
2- what could be the reason of the unremovable magazine for GK1?
3- If they both take slugs is it more beneficial to get the .22 instead of .25?

What I’m uncertain about is the long-term durability of either brand. If you have any experience or insights on this, I’d love to hear why you might prefer one over the other.

Purpose: Pest control
Caliber: .22 or .25
 
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I have a .30 Western Sidewinder. Some people might not like the trigger but it is just fine for me. It shoots like a dream, super accurate and I have had zero problems with it. I don't have a Huben so I can't compare. I'm following this thread so I can see what other people think, as I've been looking at both as well. For me, it is pretty nice that the Western is easily loaded and unloaded, though the magazines are expensive. I wonder if the Mordax uses the same ones as the Sidewinder does?
 
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shoot4fun2 said:
Is the Mordax worth the extra investment?
I’m considering purchasing one of these, and both seem to perform well, each with its own advantages and drawbacks.

What stands out to me about the Mordax is the full-auto capability and the removable magazine, which are pretty appealing features. On the other hand, the Huben’s more affordable price tag is definitely a factor to consider.


From what I’ve gathered, both can handle slugs (correct me if I am wrong), so performance in that regard seems comparable. However, I’ve heard that not just any air compressor can handle the pressure needed to fully charge the Huben’s cylinder, which could be a downside if you don't already have a high-pressure compressor.


What I’m uncertain about is the long-term durability of either brand. If you have any experience or insights on this, I’d love to hear why you might prefer one over the other.
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@shoot4fun2 What is your intended purpose for these air guns? Without that info people are going to spout off all sorts of personal opinions that may hold little relevance to you.
 
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I have the .22 GK1 and have several tins of pellets through it. I had one tin of pellets that was too loose in the mag. They caused a feed issue and I switched back to the 554 head size H&N FTT 14.6's and the problem disappeared.

I have it setup for 14 fpe and it is a Hand Cannon. I get three mags and can easily rock cans at 55 yards. That is pretty impressive in my book.

The Mordax looks like a hoot but not a fan of the shoulder stock. I want a pistol, not a carbine. Full auto looks impractical.

Hard to beat the Huben, Gregor nailed it!
 
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I have the .22 GK1 and have several tins of pellets through it. I had one tin of pellets that was too loose in the mag. They caused a feed issue and I switched back to the 554 head size H&N FTT 14.6's and the problem disappeared.

I have it setup for 14 fpe and it is a Hand Cannon. I get three mags and can easily rock cans at 55 yards. That is pretty impressive in my book.

The Mordax looks like a hoot but not a fan of the shoulder stock. I want a pistol, not a carbine. Full auto looks impractical.

Hard to beat the Huben, Gregor nailed it!
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@maxtrouble And very fun to shoot loud and proud. Sounds like you're an extremely good shot at 55 yards. I'm still working on proficiency at shooting offhand from 10-15 yards with iron sights.
 
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@maxtrouble And very fun to shoot loud and proud. Sounds like you're an extremely good shot at 55 yards. I'm still working on proficiency at shooting offhand from 10-15 yards with iron sights.
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@Ezana4CE - I have to shoot off of a bag with my pistols to hit consistently at 55 yards. 😀 I can get a few hits offhand but find shooting offhand while sitting weird or uncomfortable. Sitting in my shanty my hands stay warmer shooting pistols and it has been cold lately.

The HW44 is another great offhand pistol, even with it's huge pickle. 12 fpe is no joke in a pistol and shoots flat.
 
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I have a Huben GK1 v3 in .25 so I may be bias.

According to the documentation, the Huben GK1 is capable of almost twice the power(.25 cal). (45 FPE vs ~80+ FPE)

Additionally, when I was looking around, I couldn't find a single person disappointed with their GK1. I 100% understand why now. It is honestly amazing you can turn a screw and go from a 5 FPE dinky back yard toy to 1100 fps (supersonic) 80+ FPE hunting machine/home defense.

It's just impressive engineering TBH. I have a folding stock and a thermal scope coming for it after having my fun with a shake on red dot. Turning it into the ultimate night hunting small package.
 
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Hubens been out longer proven platform. Others just copied it. I had one with full auto feature it was a waste, just a cool factor. Trigger is adjustable on Hubens and are quite good for semi auto, others not as good.

I shoot slugs in my GK1 with a red dot and shoot eggs at 35yds free handed, miss occasionally but on a bench never miss.

As far as the magazine goes, I don't mind the fixed magazine. That way I am not loosing or misplacing magazine.
 
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From what I’ve gathered, both can handle slugs (correct me if I am wrong), so performance in that regard seems comparable. However, I’ve heard that not just any air compressor can handle the pressure needed to fully charge the Huben’s cylinder, which could be a downside if you don't already have a high-pressure compressor.
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Just adding a little more around these points:

My huben LOVES slugs. I shoot the 40gr apollo slugs (cheapest I could find) and haven't had a single jam up or issue yet.

As for air pressure, the $270 dollar one from Amazon has a red line at 4500 PSI but I've used mine over a dozen times to pump it all the way up to 5000psi without issue. I wouldn't try to charge anything HUGE that high but the pressure tube is so narrow on the GK1 its only in the red for a small amount of time and doesn't seem to harm it at all.

Could use a handpump as an alternative.
 
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freetacos said:
Just adding a little more around these points:

My huben LOVES slugs. I shoot the 40gr apollo slugs (cheapest I could find) and haven't had a single jam up or issue yet.

As for air pressure, the $270 dollar one from Amazon has a red line at 4500 PSI but I've used mine over a dozen times to pump it all the way up to 5000psi without issue. I wouldn't try to charge anything HUGE that high but the pressure tube is so narrow on the GK1 its only in the red for a small amount of time and doesn't seem to harm it at all.
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@freetacos The GK1 "pressure tube" (reservoir) is not narrow compared to the one on the Huben K1. If that's narrow what are you comparing it to, an AEA Zeus? The reservoir is short in comparison, but rightfully so since it's on a pistol.
 
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@freetacos The GK1 "pressure tube" (reservoir) is not narrow compared to the one on the Huben K1. If that's narrow what are you comparing it to, an AEA Zeus? The reservoir is short in comparison, but rightfully so since it's on a pistol.
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I don't recall comparing it to the K1.

In case you missed the point, it was that you do not have to exceed the 'warning' on those pumps for very long because you do not have a whole lot of room to fill at that pressure (85cc - 5.1 ci). Unlike, for example, a 1.6L auxiliary tank (1600 cc - 98 ci), or even my dinky Sig MCX is 210cc - 13 ci at 2.5x that volume.

Ah the internet, where you have to explain to people how water is wet.
 
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Anyone gotten into either of these platforms or one of the semi-autos of any kind, to see if trigger work could be accomplished while still being a safe platform?
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It is my understanding that the Huben GK1 is a 2 stage trigger with adjustment screws for each stage.

What kind of trigger work would you need done that couldn't be accomplished with those adjustments?
 
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I don't recall comparing it to the K1.

In case you missed the point, it was that you do not have to exceed the 'warning' on those pumps for very long because you do not have a whole lot of room to fill at that pressure (85cc - 5.1 ci). Unlike, for example, a 1.6L auxiliary tank (1600 cc - 98 ci), or even my dinky Sig MCX is 210cc - 13 ci at 2.5x that volume.

Ah the internet, where you have to explain to people how water is wet.
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@freetacos Now you're discussing volume. Before you stated that the GK1 reservoir is narrow. I disagreed stating that it is not narrow, but short. A comparison becomes relevant to validate your statement. Is what I am saying splitting hairs? Yes, but it is also an accurate statement considering it is hard to know what is connecting the dots between what you have typed and what has not been stated completing the thought or statement making it logical or factual.

What does the number of strokes on a pump have to do with the diameter of the reservoir? The total volume of the reservoir is more relevant as opposed to the objective view of an individual on how wide or narrow the reservoir looks to them.

I'll go with the GK1 based upon personal experience with one versus the Mordax specs on paper for what I want and believe that I need.
 
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Anyone gotten into either of these platforms or one of the semi-autos of any kind, to see if trigger work could be accomplished while still being a safe platform?
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There are a few different things that can be done to the trigger.

1) Looking at the two screws on the back of action: the screw on the right has a spring that can be replaced with a lighter one. This will lighten up the first stage.

2) The left screw can be adjusted for a lighter second stage but be careful how light you make it as it can make the gun dangerous.


Gregor explains it well at 24:10
 
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