HW/Weihrauch More Hw30 fun.

The last 2 months I've been having some work done on the house and I lost my primary airgun perch. My front porch. I finally got it back in shape enough to shoot. Naturally I brought out my Hw30s first. I shot these 5 shot 25 yard groups with my peep sighted 30. I'm petty happy with these considering I haven't shot the gun more than once in months.
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Then I shot the scoped 30. On the first group the scope was all fogged up from going to the hot humid outside from the A/C. After it cleared it shot well. It did really well with 8.4 FX (JSB clones). The bottom left would have been smaller but it had a string of pellets mashed together pushing out of the paper because they couldn't get through the 5/8 MDF.
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I always said my hw30s can hang with my 97 out to 25 yards. This proves it. I'm gonna go back to shooting before it gets too hot.

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The last 2 months I've been having some work done on the house and I lost my primary airgun perch. My front porch. I finally got it back in shape enough to shoot. Naturally I brought out my Hw30s first. I shot these 5 shot 25 yard groups with my peep sighted 30. I'm petty happy with these considering I haven't shot the gun more than once in months.
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Then I shot the scoped 30. On the first group the scope was all fogged up from going to the hot humid outside from the A/C. After it cleared it shot well. It did really well with 8.4 FX (JSB clones). The bottom left would have been smaller but it had a string of pellets mashed together pushing out of the paper because they couldn't get through the 5/8 MDF.
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I always said my hw30s can hang with my 97 out to 25 yards. This proves it. I'm gonna go back to shooting before it gets too hot.

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I’m curious if you rest the forestock of the 30 on your hand while shooting? And same question for your 97’s?
 
I’m curious if you rest the forestock of the 30 on your hand while shooting? And same question for your 97’s?
I don't, only if shooting off hand. I shoot off of cross sticks or a front and rear bag on a bench.
If I was resting on a tree or edge of a deck railing then I would have my hand between the rifle and the rest.
 
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I’m curious if you rest the forestock of the 30 on your hand while shooting? And same question for your 97’s?
I pretty much shot all my springers the same way. I lightly hold the forestock in my in my left hand and almost don't grip the gun at all with my right hand. I use my forehand to apply only enough rearward pressure to keep the stock from falling out of my shoulder.

My Hw30s and 50 have three screw stocks so i locate my hand by placing my left thumb and pointer on the ends of the pivot bolt. My 95s, 97 and R1 have four screw stocks so I locate my left hand by placing my thumb and pointer on the forward stock screws. These may not be the best place to hold some of these rifles but it gives me consistent results. Repeating your hold placement is critical with spingers. Regardless of where I hold them they basically float on my flesh. I never rest them on anything. The towel covered box is steady my hand on. I shoot holding the rifle with my elbows on the table.

I place my right thumb up the spine of the stock and squeeze the the trigger straight back against my thumb pressure. The remaining three fingers barely touch the stock. Usually just their tips barely touch. I'll increase the their contact area as power increases. The stronger the rifle, the more hand on the grip. Mind you it's never a firm grip. Just more contact area.


This is what works good enough for me. Ymmv. There's pages of other good springer tips stuck at the top of this forum.
 
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I pretty much shot all my springers the same way. I lightly hold the forestock in my in my left hand and almost don't grip the gun at all with my right hand. I use my forehand to apply only enough rearward pressure to keep the stock from falling out of my shoulder.

My Hw30s and 50 have three screw stocks so i locate my hand by placing my left thumb and pointer on the ends of the pivot bolt. My 95s, 97 and R1 have four screw stocks so I locate my left hand by placing my thumb and pointer on the forward stock screws. These may not be the best place to hold some of these rifles but it gives me consistent results. Repeating your hold placement is critical with spingers. Regardless of where I hold them they basically float on my flesh. I never rest them on anything. The towel covered box is steady my hand on. I shoot holding the rifle with my elbows on the table.

I place my right thumb up the spine of the stock and squeeze the the trigger straight back against my thumb pressure. The remaining three fingers barely touch the stock. Usually just their tips barely touch. I'll increase the their contact area as power increases. The stronger the rifle, the more hand on the grip. Mind you it's never a firm grip. Just more contact area.


This is what works good enough for me. Ymmv. There's pages of other good springer tips stuck at the top of this forum.
Thanks so much for that detailed description! It makes sense to me for sure. I’m wondering if you are a taller guy, in that you hold with your thumb and pointer on the pivot bolt? I‘m 5’7” and follow similar to your description for both front and back hands but hold with my left hand so the gun rests in the crook of my hand with my index finger touching the single bottom forestock screw for consistency. I really appreciate your comments and advice.
 
Thanks so much for that detailed description! It makes sense to me for sure. I’m wondering if you are a taller guy, in that you hold with your thumb and pointer on the pivot bolt? I‘m 5’7” and follow similar to your description for both front and back hands but hold with my left hand so the gun rests in the crook of my hand with my index finger touching the single bottom forestock screw for consistency. I really appreciate your comments and advice.
I'm 6'3 with long arms and legs. What you're doing is probably better. Most people prefer to hold the gun closer to the center of gravity. I have hard time repeating that so I use a more forward hold that I can repeat. Its consistent hold placement that's most critical. Consistent pressures at contact points is next important.

I shoot too many rifles to learn any of them good so I use the basic formula I outlined for all of them. I'd get better results from any of them if I only shot that one. There's a lot of truth to the saying, Beware the man with one gun...
 
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I'm 6'3 with long arms and legs. What you're doing is probably better. Most people prefer to hold the gun closer to the center of gravity. I have hard time repeating that so I use a more forward hold that I can repeat. Its consistent hold placement that's most critical. Consistent pressures at contact points is next important.

I shoot too many rifles to learn any of them good so I use the basic formula I outlined for all of them. I'd get better results from any of them if I only shot that one. There's a lot of truth to the saying, Beware the man with one gun...
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