Move over big dogs, the little Atomic XR is moving in...

@redtick12, Are you trying to play Jedi Mind Games
1f600.svg
. How about a firm no, no, no?

I was going to ask if my Jedi skills were working, but I think the firm no, no, no answers my question. 


As for those that say it’s overpriced, I think that depends on the individual. I think most people out there would think all the guns that we each have (other than maybe some cheap springers) are over priced. It all about what the individual wants. I have told people before what I paid for an airgun and got the response that I could of got a really nice AR-15 for that price and they thought I was crazy, because from there perspective I got an obviously inferior gun for more money. From our perspective we can do things with air rifles that they (or we) can’t do with powder burners. 
 
QBALL: Tell us about adding the small carbon fiber bottle to yours. I;m also a Brocock fan. I started with a Compatto and loved everything except 30 shots per fill, so I bought a Bantam .177 and sold the Compatto to a friend. I had a Brocock Sniper, sold it and just bought a Commander XR. I have a total of 9 PCP's at the moment and might sell 1 or 2. I have been looking at the Atomic XR with interest so keep the information coming.

What high end pcp gun isn't over priced but we keep buying them!
 
Glock Rugged Thats a bold statement and since I carried a G17 for 10 years in Afghanistan and Own a Commander XR I have to agree with it and your post 

the torture this that guy did on Youtube was an over the top test and it showed how tough this pistol is I have been looking at them too

In Dana’s torture test the Atomic was as durable as the much more powerful and expensive AAA Evol. I don’t think any of the FXs would’ve fared as well. The marketing on this one was unfortunate. It should've been sold/marketed as a robust/solid mini carbine, that some, a very few can also use as a specialized pistol.
 
Congrats! How many shots are you getting at 20 FPE and at what fill pressure?

It’s currently shooting 725 FPS avg. with Crosman Premier Domes, so just under 16 FPE. I have no plans to crank it up. Will shoot it a while, then chrono it at all three TP settings and post up.

@dairyboy, thanks man, I appreciate it.
 
@l.leon Dana did do a torture test on an FX, it was the Dreamline series, and NO it did not fare well. After Dana’s test it was completely inoperable aka non-function where the Atomic and Evol were at least somewhat operational.

Interestingly after that video durability series, on one of the following videos Dana did he said that some major vendors were upset with him because of his honesty. I wonder if FX was one of them. 🤔
 
"I owned a Brocock Bantam .25 before but can't say I was impressed".

My .22 Brocock Bamtan HILite (carbon-bottle model) being definitely among my top 3 finalists in any oft-asked hypothetical "If you could own only ONE air rifle" query, I feel compelled to speculate on the reasons for my and DB's vastly different opinions of the Brocock Bantam. Unless I'm mistaken, the difference simply boils down to caliber choice(s).

No doubt each airgun power-plant performs better in certain caliber(s) than others. More specifically, as pertains equations involving the elements of power produced, efficiency (shot-count), and accuracy. And each of those elements are affected by projectile choices in each caliber.

The HiLite's equation sensitivity relates to it's Sling-shot firing system. However, that feature is one of the primary reasons I love my HiLite SO much... in 22 caliber. That stated, the Sling-shot system is probably also the primary reason DB is... correction, was not impressed with his .25 HiLite.

Before purchasing my HiLite, I invested a fair amount of due diligence investigating the performance differences between the caliber choices (.177, .22 and .25). I came to the conclusion that .22 performed more than little better than the other calibers, especially .25. Be that performance difference due to the Sling-shot system or other design idiosyncrasies in the HiLite, the HiLite not only didn't have guts enough to achieve impressive velocities in .25 caliber, but from what I could tell, .25 caliber shot-count pretty much sucked. 

However, assuming 30 foot-pounds of muzzle energy in .22 caliber satisfies the buyer's want/needs, the Sling-shot system impresses me enough to not only repeat myself (again) in saying I prefer the SS system to regulators, but to now own THREE Sling-shot guns.

I've successfully increased the power of my .22 HiLite and .22 Daystate Wolverine to 31-32 foot-pounds with simple techniques, while still maintaining acceptable shot-count. However, more extreme gunsmithing techniques increasing my .177 HiLite from 18 up to 23 foot-pounds affected it's shot-count more drastically. Interestingly, albeit unrelated to this thread, my .177 Bantam is more accurate shooting 10.3 JSBs at 22-23 foot-pounds than at 18 foot-pounds (or 13.43 JSBs at 23 FP). That being the case, I accept the reduced shot-count as the price paid to transform my .177 HiLite into a keeper. I can live with 3/4" groups at 50 yards with 10.3 JSbs at 1000 FPS; but can't live with 1" groups at 50 with 10.3s at 880 FPS.

Lil' Laser- 

bro-bantamhl177b.1647448835.png


My research suggests .25 caliber the worst choice in Brocock Bantam HiLites from velocity and shot-count perspectives. From what I've read, .25 HiLites neither produce good velocities (for what most folks want in a .25), nor acceptable shot-counts (for what most folks expect in a bottle gun).

In my opinion, based on what I've read and experienced, the Brocock/ Daystate Sling-shot firing system really "hits the spot" in 30 foot-pound .22 caliber, does pretty well in 18 foot-pound .177, but misses the spot in .25.

Bantam 100.1647450887.jpg


18.1 grain JSB, 250 BAR fill, 54 shot powerband- Low= 871, Hi= 892, ES= 21, SD= 3, Average= 884 FPS/31.5 Foot Pounds


 
Yeah you make a good point! I did buy it used and while accuracy was ok, it was more the fit and feel of it I just didn't like. And to be completely honest I'm a .22 or .30 shooter. Haven't owned a .30 in awhile but .25 just wasn't my favorite. .22 is all I shoot anymore the past 2 years. I'm sure the newer Brocock I would enjoy but I prefer a Carbine or bullpup. Didn't enjoy the other semi bullpups I've owned, bantam, Kozak, or Cricket mini carbine 
 
DB, I just edited my previous post to remove inadvertent repetitions, so that post is much improved now.

Interesting that you didn't like the fit and feel of your bantam, since that is one of my favorite things about mine. That's also largely not only why I now also own a .22 Bantam Sniper XR, but consider it one of my favorite airgun platforms ever. Being considerably more powerful, yet that power easily moderated with the four-position power-knob, and laminated wood stock rather than "walnut-stained hardwood" (beech), the only ways my Sniper HR still leave me wanting are it doesn't shoot .22 JSB Redesigns well to 100 yards, and the stock ISN'T WALNUT. :-(

bro-sniperxrmag22lam.1647462110.png


Nevertheless, I prefer laminated wood stocks over beech, and it shoots 18.13 grain JSB's like a house a'fire! It does so out to 100 yards, on power-level 3 (925 FPS) or PL 4 (1000 FPS). 

Sniper MOA.1647462708.jpg



 
Just picked up my Atomic XR today locally. I was able to get it for $1299 as a demo unit. Still have a learning curve watching AEAC Steve explain tuning. I have a bit of an issue where I have trouble seeing the reference numbers on the external hammer spring wheel. But the way he explains it, I just need to turn clockwise (with it uncocked of course) till the wheel stops, then back out the wheel the number of clicks he shows on his tunes. I wish he did one for JSB 15.89 as he showed using these and I have quite a bunch of weight sorted and head sized 15.89 to work with.

I plan to add a Bug Buster 2-12 scope since it focuses down to 3yds and I plan to shoot in basement during winter. I have other guns for greater distance. So I'm leaving in "pistol" setup, at least for now.

Ross
 
@blackpaw, they are the same platform, excepting folding stock, included moderator, and external HS adjuster on the Ranger. I took a half a dozen sparrows today from 25 to 40 yards with my Atomic. Definitely a capable, rugged around the farm rig, used it today as such, while my wife chatted with ladies at the farm, I did a little pesting.