HW/Weihrauch My first springer. HW 35e

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Can’t stop staring at that stock, definitely won the wood lottery with that one, enjoy!
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Thanks. If you look closely, you can see the figuring through the checkering. I ordered the rifle from AoA. I asked the salesman Rich if he could pick out a nice one for me. On the order he wrote “Super Model **** Stock” for the folks who test fire and ship. They did good!
 
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This is the Williams sight. On Amazon. Good little sight. Inexpensive. Fits perfectly on the 35. Trying this will tell you whether the Diopter will work well for you. I’m 67 years old and have a scar on the center of my eye. Poked by a wire nearly 50 years ago. I love shooting with Diopters. Scopes also. But this airgun is big and heavy enough without weighing it down with a scope. Plus the drop in the stock doesn’t lend itself for a good cheek weld with a scope. Better options in an air rifle for a scope version. If you find out you like the Diopter with the Williams, you can keep it as is or take your time to find a good deal on a Weihrauch or Anschutz. Watch eBay like a hawk and a good deal will come up. And they improve the game 10 fold over the Williams. Because with the extension to the eye one can use a much smaller aperture and tighten the alignment way down. Looks elegant to. Then this Williams can go on something else. Other picture is a HW30 with a Williams sight. Also, yes you are right, we here love to spend other people’s money. My two cents. For what it’s worth.
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This is the Williams sight. On Amazon. Good little sight. Inexpensive. Fits perfectly on the 35. Trying this will tell you whether the Diopter will work well for you. I’m 67 years old and have a scar on the center of my eye. Poked by a wire nearly 50 years ago. I love shooting with Diopters. Scopes also. But this airgun is big and heavy enough without weighing it down with a scope. Plus the drop in the stock doesn’t lend itself for a good cheek weld with a scope. Better options in an air rifle for a scope version. If you find out you like the Diopter with the Williams, you can keep it as is or take your time to find a good deal on a Weihrauch or Anschutz. Watch eBay like a hawk and a good deal will come up. And they improve the game 10 fold over the Williams. Because with the extension to the eye one can use a much smaller aperture and tighten the alignment way down. Looks elegant to. Then this Williams can go on something else. Other picture is a HW30 with a Williams sight. Also, yes you are right, we here love to spend other people’s money. My two cents. For what it’s worth. View attachment 383402View attachment 383403
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Thanks, that’s the kind of information I’m looking for. How far behind the aperture do I position my eye? Is it still a comfortable and natural hold and head placement?
 
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Woodsmoke said:
Thanks, that’s the kind of information I’m looking for. How far behind the aperture do I position my eye? Is it still a comfortable and natural hold and head placement?
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That amazon one is sold by pa .

Also its a air venturi made williams .. (???). I heard folks claim the metal is softer then a williams made. Ijdk

Bottom line is if it works and you like it who cares ..lol.

Note the difference between air venturi ag and williams ag sight.

($35)
https://www.pyramydair.com/product/williams-diopter-sight?a=2003

($80)

Ecommerce

shop.williamsgunsight.com shop.williamsgunsight.com
 
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cjtamu said:
I just bought an FP-AG-TK from AoA about 2 weeks ago. Haven’t seen NIB without knobs in a long time. Believe it’s discontinued.
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The FP-AG and FP-AG-TK Come in and out of production. If they're gone they'll come back. Sometimes takes years. I sold mine and went to a beefer Tech sight. It's not elegant but it's built like a brick crap house and works better for me than the Williams. I like that I can slide it all the way to the rear without obscuring the safety. The 0.062" diopter works better for me than the 0.050" or the 0.092" Williams sizes. It's much easier to mount and a thousand times less likely to break or bend if knocked around. It reminds me of an infantry sight.



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The FP-AG and FP-AG-TK Come in and out of production. If they're gone they'll come back. Sometimes takes years. I sold mine and went to a beefer Tech sight. It's not elegant but it's built like a brick crap house and works better for me than the Williams. I like that I can slide it all the way to the rear without obscuring the safety. The 0.062" diopter works better for me than the 0.050" or the 0.092" Williams sizes. It's much easier to mount and a thousand times less likely to break or bend if knocked around. It reminds me of an infantry sight.



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That is a cool sight. I may have to get one if ever needed. Mike Driskill posted this picture a while back. The Williams with an extension. Very cool option. The Williams comes with a larger enough aperture to mount on the receiver and have a normal head placement. If one wanted to tighten things up they could add this extension and use a smaller aperture. Lots of options. Also the new Williams diopter comes in a matte black finish. Not gloss like the old ones. Looks much nicer on a Weihrauch.
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One other FYI.
The or Weihrauch Diopter comes with a built in stop bolt. Fits down into one of the receiver holes. Keeps it from sliding backwards. The Anschutz Diopter does not have this feature. But I once had one and it did not move. I have had the Williams sights slide backwards. Now I always add a BRASS stop screw to the sight. Keeps the sight from movement and won’t damage the receiver.
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Thanks for all of the information. I’ve decided to go the diopter route vs a scope. At least, initially. As my father in law used to say, ‘looks like it growed there.” I’m just shooting in my yard and the hw 35 is heavy enough without adding more weight. As far as diopters, I’d rather go ahead and buy the one I’m going to keep. So here’s the problems: the Weihrauch and Anshutz seem to be made from unobtainium. The Williams FP-AG-TK is unavailable. I’m not a gunsmith and don’t want to cobble various pieces together Or drill and tap. I’d like to find one that fits and works. I’m ready to hit “add to cart” and there’s no product available.;) if any of you folks find one that is available and you are not going to buy it, please let me know. Thanks
 
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Mycapt65 said:
The FP-AG and FP-AG-TK Come in and out of production. If they're gone they'll come back. Sometimes takes years. I sold mine and went to a beefer Tech sight. It's not elegant but it's built like a brick crap house and works better for me than the Williams. I like that I can slide it all the way to the rear without obscuring the safety. The 0.062" diopter works better for me than the 0.050" or the 0.092" Williams sizes. It's much easier to mount and a thousand times less likely to break or bend if knocked around. It reminds me of an infantry sight.



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Random notes:

+ The Williams and other traditional US sights use a 7/32 x 40 eyepiece thread; both German sights use a 9.5mm X 1.0mm thread. Each is a standard size shared with other brands. Many accessories are around for both, which opens up future upgrades.

+ "Plus One" on the Tech Sight, a very nice, very compact, and rock solid design. Note that it has a proprietary way of doing different opening sizes - does not use standard screw-in eye disks. If you buy one, go for the optional aperture kit, and adjuster tool. As Mycapt65 mentioned, a significant advantage is that it can be mounted further to the rear than a Williams, which must go forward of the side-button safety. Link: https://www.tech-sights.com/product/remington-597-adjustable-aperture-sights/

+ I agree on that Daisy sight. Heavy, slack adjustments, poor small sharp attachment "foot," and made for a flat rail, not the 35's arched receiver top. It's one of the few sights I've ever sold! Beware the same basic unit is sold under other brand names, too...run away.

+ The old HW and Anschutz sights are relatively plentiful, but alas - no longer made. It takes a little patience and scouting around to find one - auction and classified sites, gun shows, etc. The HW sight was made with two different rail spacings (went from 13mm to 11mm around 1980); verify you're getting an 11mm one for a new 35.
 
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I believe this is the correct one. You can call them and tell them you only want the rear site and it will be cheaper. It's also recommended to get the adjustment tool to make it easier. Ron (mycapt65) will hopefully chime in to confirm or correct my error. I still want to get one to try, I have two Williams FP-AG's, one on my 35 and one on a 30.
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Remington 597 Adjustable Aperture Sights - Tech Sights

FEATURES: “GI” type post and aperture sight picture. Increases sight radius by 6”. Includes front and rear sight. Rear sight Windage & Elevation adjustable with detent locking. Easy installation with no drilling or tapping required. FAQ: Q – I want to buy the REM200 for my Remington 597, do I...
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Random notes:

+ The Williams and other traditional US sights use a 7/32 x 40 eyepiece thread; both German sights use a 9.5mm X 1.0mm thread. Each is a standard size shared with other brands. Many accessories are around for both, which opens up future upgrades.

+ "Plus One" on the Tech Sight, a very nice, very compact, and rock solid design. Note that it has a proprietary way of doing different opening sizes - does not use standard screw-in eye disks. If you buy one, go for the optional aperture kit, and adjuster tool. As Mycapt65 mentioned, a significant advantage is that it can be mounted further to the rear than a Williams, which must go forward of the side-button safety. Link: https://www.tech-sights.com/product/remington-597-adjustable-aperture-sights/

+ I agree on that Daisy sight. Heavy, slack adjustments, poor small sharp attachment "foot," and made for a flat rail, not the 35's arched receiver top. It's one of the few sights I've ever sold! Beware the same basic unit is sold under other brand names, too...run away.

+ The old HW and Anschutz sights are relatively plentiful, but alas - no longer made. It takes a little patience and scouting around to find one - auction and classified sites, gun shows, etc. The HW sight was made with two different rail spacings (went from 13mm to 11mm around 1980); verify you're getting an 11mm one for a new 35.
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Will an old anshultz biathlon marked W. Germany work?
 
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