HW/Weihrauch My first springer. HW 35e
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FYI:
Anyone looking for a decent deal, here is a used 177 caliber HW35E in the stainless finish (nickel plating) at AOA. Someone please buy it before my willpower weakens.
Anyone looking for a decent deal, here is a used 177 caliber HW35E in the stainless finish (nickel plating) at AOA. Someone please buy it before my willpower weakens.
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When did Weihrauch change to the new style fore end.? Both my HW 35E and 35EB have the earlier style fore end with the grooves. Neither has any Droop. Both guns were made in 1977-8 and he EB was picked out back when Beeman went to Germany and hand selected the guns he was going to import.
My EB also has a 16 bbl instead of the more common 19" bbl which is easier to cock. Both mine also have Leather Piston seals and I have always kept them juiced up with silicone oil so both guns shoot as hard as when new. You couldn't wear these guns out in two lifetimes. I got my EB in 1978!.
I consider the HW35 and HW55 to be the best guns Weihrauch ever made. I also have an R1 and an HW77
You got a nice looking one. I'd consider a few coats of Birchwood-Casey Tru-Oil on that stock which would bring it up from pretty nice looking to" Pretty Spectacular Looking!" You'd be surprised just how much figure is hidden in that wood.
EB is left E is right.
Randy
My EB also has a 16 bbl instead of the more common 19" bbl which is easier to cock. Both mine also have Leather Piston seals and I have always kept them juiced up with silicone oil so both guns shoot as hard as when new. You couldn't wear these guns out in two lifetimes. I got my EB in 1978!.
I consider the HW35 and HW55 to be the best guns Weihrauch ever made. I also have an R1 and an HW77
You got a nice looking one. I'd consider a few coats of Birchwood-Casey Tru-Oil on that stock which would bring it up from pretty nice looking to" Pretty Spectacular Looking!" You'd be surprised just how much figure is hidden in that wood.
EB is left E is right.
Randy
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Thanks for the comments. I actually bought some tru-oil but wasn’t sure it was okay to use it over the factory finish. Are you suggesting to add it to the factory finish or sanding down and starting from scratch.?
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BoG would be a good one to ask about the stock. The 45 year old guns above probably had an oil finished stock. I don’t think any of the new ones, including the 35E, do. I think it’s a urethane but not 100% sure. Would like to know myself.
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I would leave the stock as it is. You definitely do not want any oil in the checkering. The rifle is perfect as it is. You will change the feel and sheen with any type of oil top coating.
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I had only seen the first pic of the gun and it appeared to have a flat finish like it was oiled once. I finally saw the pics of the gun out in the sun and there is definitely some gloss. Probably Urethane. I have used the Min Wax Helmsman Urethane on several guns, and it is the easiest paint to spray I have ever used. Sprays a mist so fine it is like a fog, very easy to control.
I did the wood on my Browning A5 Tactical Gun with it and did about 8 fine coats 2 hours apart drying it in the heater closet during the winter. Did some smoothing with steel wool between every other coat. I stained it with Golden Oak Stain so it would look like the original color of a 1963 A5.
Came out nice?
But the final step was to Wax it heavily with Tre Wax applied with 0000 steel wool. I would suggest that treatment on his new gun as it will protect whatever finish is on it and it's also a good idea to do the metal at the same time with a little heat from a hair dryer to open up the pours so the wax sinks in a little.. Got that one from Larry Potterfield of Midway USA. It makes it so you can handle the gun without constantly worrying about leaving finger prints that turn into Rust.
Here's the wood from a Marlin Rifle I'm doing right now. The first pic is after the last coat of Tru-Oil, the second is after Dark Tre-Wax. I'm trying to learn how to enhance Wood Grain with a Sharpie. Trying to get a friend who does high end shotguns to show me some of the ins and outs. He's pretty tight with the knowledge. I think he wants to take it to the grave!
Randy
I did the wood on my Browning A5 Tactical Gun with it and did about 8 fine coats 2 hours apart drying it in the heater closet during the winter. Did some smoothing with steel wool between every other coat. I stained it with Golden Oak Stain so it would look like the original color of a 1963 A5.
Came out nice?
But the final step was to Wax it heavily with Tre Wax applied with 0000 steel wool. I would suggest that treatment on his new gun as it will protect whatever finish is on it and it's also a good idea to do the metal at the same time with a little heat from a hair dryer to open up the pours so the wax sinks in a little.. Got that one from Larry Potterfield of Midway USA. It makes it so you can handle the gun without constantly worrying about leaving finger prints that turn into Rust.
Here's the wood from a Marlin Rifle I'm doing right now. The first pic is after the last coat of Tru-Oil, the second is after Dark Tre-Wax. I'm trying to learn how to enhance Wood Grain with a Sharpie. Trying to get a friend who does high end shotguns to show me some of the ins and outs. He's pretty tight with the knowledge. I think he wants to take it to the grave!
Randy
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It’s true that wax protects the finish. The downside to applying wax is the wax will always be there. A future refinish will never lay as nice because of the wax. There are wax washes that will reduce but never remove all the wax. Everything has an upside and a downside. Knowing both will help make a better decision. I don’t use wax. If the stock takes damage, I want to make the repair or refinish without fighting with wax.
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Bear: the Alternate Path is to Wax it and then not ding it up. Careful Handling of Guns, especially nice ones, is something that should be taught early on.
One of the places gooning happens is "going in and out of safes" and is called "Safe Rash." So knowing that you need to pay Extra Attention when Putting a gun in, or taking it out of a safe is something that can be taught and learned, Or Vice Versa. .
Last year I traded my 2010 Citori XT Trap Gun in for a new Citori CXS. My XT had @30,000 rounds thru it. It had one 1/8" ding in the toe of the stock, and I got $50 more on the trade in than I paid for it in the first place! It looked new, simply because I took care of it.. It Lived in a Browning Hard Case and went back and forth to the venues in that case. It was assembled and greased at the venue, shot, took apart, wiped down with a Silicone Rag and put back in the case where it lived until the next time. I also wiped the Breach Face clean after each outing, and the gun shop figured it had maybe 100 rounds thru it.
Who am I to disagree with them? The new gun now lives in the old gun's Hard Case !
Point being after you refinish a gun there should never be a reason to have to refinish it again.
My Favorite Uncle Passed his 1964 Browning A5 down to me in 1995. It had 22 rounds thru it during the 30 years he owned it. It has one Ding in the left side of the stock from his belt buckle. It came with a Browning Hard Case and Full and Modified Barrels and even the Instructions! I have hunted with it as my main Bird Hunting Gun for the last 30 years. Probably 1000 ish rounds. It still looks new!
My whole point here is most of the Weihrauch Guns I've seen here with Spectacular Wood should be considered to be fine firearms just like my nice shotguns, and should be handled accordingly. They should never need to be refinished. This is my first Airgun HW35EB purchased from Beeman in 1978. It has lived the vast majority of it's 46 years stood up in a corner next to a book case near the back door, so it could be grabbed quickly to deal with Mocking Birds or other Vermin. Just shot a Ground Squirrel in the front yard thru the bathroom window a couple of weeks ago. It has a few very minor dings in the comb and heel of the stock,,, in 46 years!.
I pick up Inexpensive Used Hard Cases when ever I see them at gun shops to use as "Transport Cases" for my guns that live in Safes.
My Mother Beat Me when she saw me not taking care of my precious things. We couldn't afford to replace them. I still have my Erector Set from 1956! I still have my Daisy Eagle BB gun form 1958, and my First .22 a Remington 514 which cost me $15 which was a fortune to a 12 year old kid in 1962!
Point here is,,, The Beatings Worked !!! I have heard that "the Beatings will continue until Moral Improves?"
I say,,, "The Beatings "Should Continue" until they learn how to take care of their stuff!" YMMV
I think we can all agree that there is not enough Beatings going on in our society right now, as evidenced by the Idiots who are in charge!
Randy
One of the places gooning happens is "going in and out of safes" and is called "Safe Rash." So knowing that you need to pay Extra Attention when Putting a gun in, or taking it out of a safe is something that can be taught and learned, Or Vice Versa. .
Last year I traded my 2010 Citori XT Trap Gun in for a new Citori CXS. My XT had @30,000 rounds thru it. It had one 1/8" ding in the toe of the stock, and I got $50 more on the trade in than I paid for it in the first place! It looked new, simply because I took care of it.. It Lived in a Browning Hard Case and went back and forth to the venues in that case. It was assembled and greased at the venue, shot, took apart, wiped down with a Silicone Rag and put back in the case where it lived until the next time. I also wiped the Breach Face clean after each outing, and the gun shop figured it had maybe 100 rounds thru it.
Who am I to disagree with them? The new gun now lives in the old gun's Hard Case !
Point being after you refinish a gun there should never be a reason to have to refinish it again.
My Favorite Uncle Passed his 1964 Browning A5 down to me in 1995. It had 22 rounds thru it during the 30 years he owned it. It has one Ding in the left side of the stock from his belt buckle. It came with a Browning Hard Case and Full and Modified Barrels and even the Instructions! I have hunted with it as my main Bird Hunting Gun for the last 30 years. Probably 1000 ish rounds. It still looks new!
My whole point here is most of the Weihrauch Guns I've seen here with Spectacular Wood should be considered to be fine firearms just like my nice shotguns, and should be handled accordingly. They should never need to be refinished. This is my first Airgun HW35EB purchased from Beeman in 1978. It has lived the vast majority of it's 46 years stood up in a corner next to a book case near the back door, so it could be grabbed quickly to deal with Mocking Birds or other Vermin. Just shot a Ground Squirrel in the front yard thru the bathroom window a couple of weeks ago. It has a few very minor dings in the comb and heel of the stock,,, in 46 years!.
I pick up Inexpensive Used Hard Cases when ever I see them at gun shops to use as "Transport Cases" for my guns that live in Safes.
My Mother Beat Me when she saw me not taking care of my precious things. We couldn't afford to replace them. I still have my Erector Set from 1956! I still have my Daisy Eagle BB gun form 1958, and my First .22 a Remington 514 which cost me $15 which was a fortune to a 12 year old kid in 1962!
Point here is,,, The Beatings Worked !!! I have heard that "the Beatings will continue until Moral Improves?"
I say,,, "The Beatings "Should Continue" until they learn how to take care of their stuff!" YMMV
I think we can all agree that there is not enough Beatings going on in our society right now, as evidenced by the Idiots who are in charge!
Randy
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Preaching to the choir. But accidents do happen and some folks aren’t as anal as I am. Pointing out pros and cons to a project is very important. We as a society are so quick to jump in when something sounds good. Never asking what is being lost in the process. Not trying to be argumentative at all. Just discussing both sides.
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Well, my first and only air gun is starting to look like a blast from the past! I returned home from Boston yesterday after babysitting my 10 month old grandson. A nice little package was in the mailbox. So, my vintage designed air rifle now has a vintage sight on it. The OEM rear sight is still on as I am awaiting my proper screwdriver set
Also, the “new” sight is not properly installed yet. I’m awaiting Ballistol so I can clean it up properly
Also, the “new” sight is not properly installed yet. I’m awaiting Ballistol so I can clean it up properlyUpvote 0
So...... when do ya pull it off its pedestal and put it on the range for some shooting reviewing ?
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Wow, everything is so beautiful! I want to be you.Well, my first and only air gun is starting to look like a blast from the past! I returned home from Boston yesterday after babysitting my 10 month old grandson. A nice little package was in the mailbox. So, my vintage designed air rifle now has a vintage sight on it. The OEM rear sight is still on as I am awaiting my proper screwdriver set
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I wish you would stop showing that beautiful rifle, I have a .22 and a .177 HW 35E but neither one comes close to yours. I'm glad you are enjoying it, it is a fantastic rifle.
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