Umarex My Notos first impressions
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I noticed something when I put the gun back together after doing the port job. The screw that holds the pic rail wasn't going all the way down. It looked like it was at a glance but I could see some play in the rail. After shortening the screw it works properly now, no movement. I suppose this might explain my strange POI shifts.
Now, this could be a problem I caused. I had replaced the original grub screw that is under that screw that holds the barrel (lost the original). The replacement wasn't that much longer then the original but I guess the two screws were very close to start.
Just something to keep in mind for others that may have had to replace the original grub screw like me.
Now, this could be a problem I caused. I had replaced the original grub screw that is under that screw that holds the barrel (lost the original). The replacement wasn't that much longer then the original but I guess the two screws were very close to start.
Just something to keep in mind for others that may have had to replace the original grub screw like me.
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Wait.what? That sounds like you might be using a longer than 4*4 grub.
You solved the same way i did until my dovetail to picatinny rail adapter arrived.. after I switched to the FX barrel which came with a 4x6 grub if I recall correctly. Maybe a 4x5 and the same exact issue.
I found MUCH more reliable point of impact when I mounted directly to the dovetail. The original pic rail/fore end for me had about 1/32 of play and resulted in a 6 moa shift horizontally. Depending on where it rocked (almost imperceptible in normal shooting activity) could hit anywhere between zero and six left or right
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I honestly don't remember the size screw I used, I just used the smallest one I had. I remember it being pretty close though.
I may use a dovetail mount at some point. Right now I have a over bore bipod, which I really like. If I could find a dovetail to pic rail that was as long as the one that is on the notos I would use it.
Before I shortened that screw it would be fine when I zeroed it (like it wouldn't shift as I was shooting), then it would be slightly off each time I filled it with air. I haven't done any shooting after fixing the screw so I'm not sure how it effected POI shifts.
I likely won't shoot much until my bottle conversion comes in, no sense in shooting if I will just have to adjust everything in a few days.
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Depending on what tank rig you get you might be able to convert to either mounting a picatinny bipod on the under rail of a cricket block/reg. Or if you go the unregulated dropblock+inline adjustable or set pressure reg you can use. 34mm ring clamp mounted pic rail.
You can buy the rear dovetail plate for pp750 from air archery and mount a long one piece dove to pic. And mount an extension on the front or mount the longest dove to pic rail you can find with it slightly offset to leave a small ledge to mount your OTB pod.
Or stick with the original if it's a snug fit. Mine wasn't, I improvised. It paid off. There's endless choices.
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I went back to a dovetail to picatinny 9 slot mounted solely on the front dovetail and mounted a cantilever scope mount backwards to get the scope in a proper position. I mounted the cheaper stream light , the TLR6 Led/laser option on the excess front rail, helps guide my squirrel hunting buddy to targets... Dude had a brain tumor and got a craniotomy, now has huge difficulty following directional instructions.
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Well mine just arrived. First thing already is a loose castle nut. buttstock rotates it’s so loose.
ordered A maple mag to try out. Will report back soon. Mounted up a vortex strike eagle 1-6 as well.
ordered A maple mag to try out. Will report back soon. Mounted up a vortex strike eagle 1-6 as well.
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It's a good idea to check all the screws and seals on all guns when you get them. Even if it is from a good company you can never tell how long it has been sitting on a shelf. And often shipping isn't very gentle, at least where I live. I swear every box I get in the mail has had some sort of dent in it.
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Brother. Have you tried AEA 15.9 yet?
Absolute perfection. Even the hades and 17.5 .218s have Nothing on them out of mine. Absolutely shocked. First experience with AEA pellets out of all my guns yesterday. The shape in which the pellets arrived in, the consistency in uniformity. Just blown away I've got to find the other half of my scope cam mount to get quality pics and videos. At 25 10 shot groups looked like 1 or 2 pellet impacts on the target, at 60 it was .6-.8" groups. I shot 150 25.3s out of my dreamline at 900, 22 was even better.
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Haven't used AEA yet but I have used JTS. I have heard they are very similar in construction.
I have not used JTS in my notos yet. I have used them in my avenge-x and was very impressed by them. I weighed a tin of them once just out of curiosity, I normally do not bother, and they had very few out side of the advertised weight. Weighed a similar pellet of JSB for comparison and JSTs blew them out of the water.
Not to start a brand war, but I really feel like JSB is overrated. Love their Hades but have not been impressed with anything else I have tried of theirs. Maybe the guns I own just like harder lead, JSB seems to use a softer lead.
I have not used JTS in my notos yet. I have used them in my avenge-x and was very impressed by them. I weighed a tin of them once just out of curiosity, I normally do not bother, and they had very few out side of the advertised weight. Weighed a similar pellet of JSB for comparison and JSTs blew them out of the water.
Not to start a brand war, but I really feel like JSB is overrated. Love their Hades but have not been impressed with anything else I have tried of theirs. Maybe the guns I own just like harder lead, JSB seems to use a softer lead.
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I typically shoot FX 25.4 in .25 which is basically a copy of exact King jsbs . The FX QC seems to be better than jsb to me. The FX shoot great out of the dreamline. I've used everything In 25 and FX came out on top....until AEA.
The notos LOVED jts 16.08. However , did shoot jsb and FX 15.9s insanely well. The JSB issue for me was consistency between batches. The good tins were good .im not just talking looks wise when I say "good". Some could look good but shoot like crap, some had chattered up skirts and shot well. JTS 16s and FX atomic were my preferred and the 17.5 NSA. However, since I've ported the NSA don't seem to like the higher velocity. It's odd, but, it's what it is, went from one hole groups to 2MOA. At 730fps they were the favorite, bested all pellets except JTS. until I tried AEA the other day. It's insane how well they did.
The crown with the 700 superior shoots everything well except h&n 18 and 15 cuda. Typically I shoot either the .22 hybrid right under 1000 or 25.39 monsters. In 380 I typically shoot FX 18.13. however .... It loved AEA too.
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Cracked open the gun and stepped the port holes up from 5/32" (3.97mm) to 4.3mm. Used a 4.3 drill bit and a t-handle chuck to prevent drill chatter damaging the threads of the tp access hole . Got all holes to 4.3 polished them, re assembled. On the chrono I get 807... Started playing with pressures and hst again. Dropped to 1800±. Roughly 80% Hammer spring tension. And got 856 average
Had to re zero and did some shooting at 50m. The bottom left target sheet... The random Impacts on the middle layer are the first shots. 18moa low, 13 right. 1st shot was middle layer right target, then moved poa to top left target on the same sheet. 2nd and 3rd impact confirmed the ±18 low ±13 right. 4th is middle layer left target over corrected windage, 5 6 7 are windage corrected and confirmed. Then got the elevation dialed and began shooting. The shoot n CS with the marks off of bull are shooting the little "9"s. But this is how the AEA 15.9s did at roughly 847-867. The 867 is what I got when I bottomed out the hammer spring adjuster. Most shots were 854-858
Had to re zero and did some shooting at 50m. The bottom left target sheet... The random Impacts on the middle layer are the first shots. 18moa low, 13 right. 1st shot was middle layer right target, then moved poa to top left target on the same sheet. 2nd and 3rd impact confirmed the ±18 low ±13 right. 4th is middle layer left target over corrected windage, 5 6 7 are windage corrected and confirmed. Then got the elevation dialed and began shooting. The shoot n CS with the marks off of bull are shooting the little "9"s. But this is how the AEA 15.9s did at roughly 847-867. The 867 is what I got when I bottomed out the hammer spring adjuster. Most shots were 854-858
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Tried these Griffin LDC .218 17gr slugs today. Whoooaaaaaa.
That's a 10 shot group at 35 yards. Going 800fps.
They're remarkable. The expansion was complete inside-out lead donut. Going to acquaint a squirrel, dove, or Chipzbollah operative with one and see the results on meat. Hopes are high with the results gotten so far.
That's a 10 shot group at 35 yards. Going 800fps.
They're remarkable. The expansion was complete inside-out lead donut. Going to acquaint a squirrel, dove, or Chipzbollah operative with one and see the results on meat. Hopes are high with the results gotten so far.
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Nailed a dove at 70~.
Top of a large sweet gum, bored from mid gut upward out back just below base of neck. The small red circles are tiny lead fragments. The thing fragmented and did some obvious expansion. The deep "THOOOCK" Was another sign. And the fact it just dropped like a frozen figurine of a bird.
For reference that's a .25 hybrid placed on it
Top of a large sweet gum, bored from mid gut upward out back just below base of neck. The small red circles are tiny lead fragments. The thing fragmented and did some obvious expansion. The deep "THOOOCK" Was another sign. And the fact it just dropped like a frozen figurine of a bird.
For reference that's a .25 hybrid placed on it
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Brother, I get emotionally upset when I'm not shooting .33" groups at 35. These did. These didn't shotgun at all. They held tight and were more than 30fps faster than the half grain heavier NSA .2175 17.5s however, know I've got a superior liner and FX kit on mine. I don't know how they shoot through stock barrel yet. They're more money than the NSA 17.5. They're better. These expand... Bigly. 788-803fps out of my gun. They held tight at 70. The pellet hole is exactly inline elevation and Windage of where I held. I've just ordered 800 more.
Someone suggested the other week to run patches every 60 or so shots with slugs. Or whenever they stop grouping like pellets. This advice has served me very well.
Edit2: from fresh bore they hit exactly where I aimed with a third inch CEP After about 25 shots they tightened up and were going through one hole. I shot 53 slugs. I had zero fliers. I did miss a chipmunk. But it was due to parallax blurring out a twig between him and I.
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