Correction… i just saw you mentioned the brand name as Phoenix. I thought that was a Tier One bi-pod and that is the one I was referencing. I've never used a Phoenix. Sorry about the confusion.
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Mythbusting Precision BR
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I’ve used this bipod over the last few years, don’t remember the name? Works well but I wouldn’t use it in BR competition. I have a Randolph Machine I shoot for 25m and any N50 or 100yd matches 
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Joe
Would you mind snapping a pic of your Randolph front rest? I have a used one and would like to see yours.
Would you mind snapping a pic of your Randolph front rest? I have a used one and would like to see yours.
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Reminds me of day in 2009, a gentleman that hunted with a few of us on rare occasions, something like 3 days in 5 years paying the full amount, showed up to hunt an evening and I was the only other person there. In the back of his tahoe he had his new 1000 yard unlimited rifle(artillery piece to me) that he just drove back from picking up. He invited me to shoot with him the next weekend while he fireformed brass for it and wanted me to bring my custom rifle built by Gre'Tan. Got there the next saturday and it was a perfect day, no wind, no mirage. Of course he is never on a rifle when shooting, hadn't been in well over a decade, but was a podium finisher back when he was on the rifle. He also shot unlimited 100 yard benchrest. Between firing a couple rounds fire forming, he took my Gre'Tan in 7mm-08 and the factory 140gr nosler partions I had and put a box of 20 on a target at 500 yards over the course of several hours in between fireforming and practicing with his current 100 yard gun. He gave me grief for not reloading for my Gre'Tan, I never saw any point in it for that rifle. 20 shot group, unfamiliar rifle, front bag only(no fancy rest) and years since he shot on a rifle for anything but hunting, scope with crosshairs not conducive to target shooting, and he put all 20 factory rounds on target into way less than 4", close to 3.5" at the 500 yard line. He ordered a Gre'Tan built hunting rifle after that, took over a year to get it. I spent most of the day shooting his shot out 100 yard gun from back in the day when he shot on the gun, he had near 1000 loaded rounds for it that were no good for anything but that custom. I was able to put 5 shots, 5 times on a card at 100 yards with rough max group size of 0.3", he shot a card and max group was .19", shot out rifle that can't compete any longer, to prove a point he put it in his rest for 100 yards and shot 3 groups, same as just shooting it off a bag. Like you said, matter of convenience, not needed. Taking a break and letting things cool down, we were walking down to the targets and he said he watched me shoot and had some suggestions if I didn't mind. I stopped him, told him everything I do wrong, and asked him if I missed anything. He said you got it covered, so why don't y0u fix it. It's simple, you either have the mental discipline to do what it takes all the time or you don't, trying to do it all right when you don't have the discipline to always do it is pointless and will drive you mad. I learned long ago I don't. I had lot's of training in service rifle and handgun silhouett, spent years chasing my mental stuff. I'm much happier now that I don't give a flip and am not half the shooter I used to , which never would have been good enough to win anything. I know what it takes and the damn rests and this and that don't make a good shooter and never will. They will make an average shooter better though, but they will still suck hind end in any real competion. Amazing thing was at the end of the day, he just had one target we was shooting while fire forming brass, had 100 rounds on that target with light thrown not weighed fireforming loads, it was at the 500 yard line and was about 4". I said that has to make you feel good it does that fireforming with non precision loads, he wasn't impressed. He said he chased stuff in the past on new builds, and nothing means anything till you are developing your real load, off chance it will not do much better, he had that happen in the past.Here's one for the bipod folks. First time ever using one for BR at 50y.
Was it difficult? No
Was is unsteady? No
Did I struggle to pull the trigger correctly? No
Did my lack of shooting skills from a decade of using a mechanical rest rear its ugly head? No
Was it convenient? No
Will I ever use it again? No...unless somebody wants to make a bet with me.
Mike
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Thanks Joe. Yours looks almost brand new.
Mine has only one knob ( left side ) that controls horizontal windage and it doesn’t move left to right or visa versa very crisply. I need to get after it and fix. I like the two knobs on yours.
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30-Yard Challenge
Congratulations on your 200 15X Rick! Awesome shooting with that Red Wolf ! Your next challenge… print out the 30 Yard Masters card and start work on another 200. Hey Rick, Skip the 30y Masters and jump right in at 40Y. You’re ready. Great 200-15x with the RW! I’m guessing you like the...
www.airgunnation.com Tough day with the wind. But, I had the range to myself.
I was getting about three or four wind shifts per card.
The .177 at 800-815 fps is extremely accurate at 30 yards, but 40y is pushing it with this minuscule .125” 10 ring.
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Let them down gently? Maybe softly spanking them over a few matches before uncorking a big can of “whup ass”?
A harsh beatdown can be hard for some to take, particularly whomever the previous top shooters were… Some might take it in stride, others may say it was an equipment advantage… I agree with your post…
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