Name a decent entry level airgun in the $250- $400 airgun price range. 25 to .30 caliber

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I am loving My Ranger. It has a few drawbacks which @AirShootist mentioned in his Video review. Guage location front of Barrel, fill probe rather than foster fitting, and the only thing I have found on My end is that the design of the Butt on the stock does not seat well on My Rifle Rest. Other than that, no complaints. Easily fires 14.3's at over 1000fps and My 17 and 18's into the 900's. So far so good! Oh, and even just using the BuckRail supressor, it is nice and quiet.
 
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There was no question in my mind with regard to caliber when I bought my Hatsan Blitz. The gun is the same price in .22 .25 and .30. Feeding it?
Just can't beat very good (not great) Crosman CPHP's @ 1.4 cents per. I greatly enjoy the full auto aspect of the Blitz, makes me smile every mag dump or burst. I smile a little broader with the knowledge the cost was about 30 cents.
 
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I am all about really cheap and DIY. If I can get parts easily by checking boxes on a web order, I don't want customer service at all, >customer service = >$$$
That is exactly what the manufacturer also wants. Ship it and never hear about it again. That is the reason for dealers and the classic three tier distribution model that some individuals have claimed "the internet" has turned on it's proverbial head. As usual the collar does not quite match the cuffs.
Note what the online sellers are now wrapping their business in....CUSTOMER SERVICE. Why is that?
The consumer of course. We have become more sophisticated and we now attune our expectations with our spend level.
It is unusual that I am shopping for an Approx 1000 air gun. That was the retail price for my Blitz so I went shopping.
Gunbroker 634 bucks on me to ship it to Hatsan if defective. Shipped direct from wholesalers warehouse. No dealer, no customer service.
Large well respected online dealer. 999 bucks, plus 20 bucks if I want them to air it up, plus another 20 bucks for the accuracy check? So my cost would be 1039.00??
I am 100% certain their wholesale cost is less than the 634 I paid. It is exactly the same product. The only real difference for me....410 bucks.
Sorry that ain't worth a pleasant conversation with a CS rep. Trust me the manufacturer's are fed up to death with "dealers" who are not that. And darned likely it ships from that same warehouse unless I opt for the xtra services, thanks but no thanks. We get superior customer service from each other here!
 
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Ricklin said:
I am all about really cheap and DIY. If I can get parts easily by checking boxes on a web order, I don't want customer service at all, >customer service = >$$$
That is exactly what the manufacturer also wants. Ship it and never hear about it again. That is the reason for dealers and the classic three tier distribution model that some individuals have claimed "the internet" has turned on it's proverbial head. As usual the collar does not quite match the cuffs.
Note what the online sellers are now wrapping their business in....CUSTOMER SERVICE. Why is that?
The consumer of course. We have become more sophisticated and we now attune our expectations with our spend level.
It is unusual that I am shopping for an Approx 1000 air gun. That was the retail price for my Blitz so I went shopping.
Gunbroker 634 bucks on me to ship it to Hatsan if defective. Shipped direct from wholesalers warehouse. No dealer, no customer service.
Large well respected online dealer. 999 bucks, plus 20 bucks if I want them to air it up, plus another 20 bucks for the accuracy check? So my cost would be 1039.00??
I am 100% certain their wholesale cost is less than the 634 I paid. It is exactly the same product. The only real difference for me....410 bucks.
Sorry that ain't worth a pleasant conversation with a CS rep. Trust me the manufacturer's are fed up to death with "dealers" who are not that. And darned likely it ships from that same warehouse unless I opt for the xtra services, thanks but no thanks. We get superior customer service from each other here!
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HELL YEAH!
 
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Gamo Magnum GR .25. Love mine!! Hits HARD and it’s accurate. Can’t ask for much more at 200.00 purchase price from Gamo USA

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At that price point you should be sticking to break barrels as pcp Airguns require a lot more accessories to play
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I am of the mind set a good PCP at minimum. Including compressor and the works will set me back a goood. $1,200 if lucky.
So for now I will be sticking with a break barrel set up.
I do want a pcp. But this time I want something better than a $320 Origin.
So far I am leaning to Diana products. When I save up $1000 to $1,500.
I will consider making the Diana PCP my first purchase into .30 caliber large bore beginner territory.

DIANA XR200 OD Green as an option and my first pick for PCP air rifle.​

I llike the half traditional half tactical type stock. Which seems very well designed.​

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cavedweller said:
At that price point you should be sticking to break barrels as pcp Airguns require a lot more accessories to play
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They don’t really require that many accessories though. Just a $50 Amazon hand pump. Of course most people who stick with it do end up upgrading to a compressor and/or a scba tank and most of us also use suppressors, but you don’t actually need anything more than a cheap hand pump.
 
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I for one will stay away from Electric Firearms. I am too old fashioned! lol But I like the new Air supplies that are being offered. Shrouds holding extra air, and not having to carry a Big bottle are intriguing to me.
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What I’ve recently tried doing is tuning PCPs down to 12 fpe. Once you do that it seems like you can just shoot all day long and never worry about charging the darn thing.
 
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I have a 25 caliber Avenger (not the newer Avenge X) and three P35s (177, 22, and 25). I think the SPA guns are noticably better made with better materials in key areas than my Avenger. But the Avenger can be more easily tuned to higher power, I believe, than the P35 in 25. I need to shoot the Avenger more to be sure but I think the P35s are all more accurate too. I use 30 yard challenge results to judge accuracy. My P35-22 has given me a 200, the 177 a 197 and the 25 a 194. I do not know if I've shot over a 190 with the Avenger. I don't shoot it a lot because it is so darned long. The plastic stock is also a drawback. I've made wood stocks for the 3 P35s even though their plastic stocks are OK. I should make one for the Avenger too.

The P35s (and the almost identical Stoeger Bullshark) are a bit above your price range. If you like long guns, the Ranger and Scout are also made by SPA and seem similar in features except they are long guns instead of bullpups. They would be within your price range, I believe. Airgun, Archery, Fun has several SPA guns and guns made by them with other labels. You may want to see what they have. Some are very inexpensive. Krale also sells several SPA made guns, that is where I got my P35s.
 
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