Need help deciding on a pcp

[bowtieguy66]

Hi,

this has been an ordeal cause i overthink everything. For the days I have been trying to figure out which pcp to get.

I want: in the middle side-lever, .22 caliber, near 100 shot count, synthetic stock or black coated, has a bottle 480cc or higher, $1,500 preferably less. Bullpup or carbine length. Light-ish



I’m wanting to hunt and plink with it, I also intend to backpack with it too. I’m almost sold on the AGT Uragan. Like the Kalibregun Carbine better, but am afraid i would be losing shot count, plus it’s wood. 
help!

 

[Skip-in-WV]

Look at the Brococks. Might be to heavy though for what you are looking for.

 

[Gerry52]

FX Royale 400. Full length rifle BUT does EVERYTHING you ask of it. Might not be EXACTLY what you're hoping for but you wouldn't be disappointed! Kriket carbine is a great gun IF you can find one.

 

[qball]

Dream pup bottle? 

 

[intenseaty22]

From what you are looking at, I think the Uragan would fit the bill. May want to look at the RTI priest too, fits a lot of your requirements and is very versatile. As an owner of two Kalibrguns, I can highly recommend them too. But, as noted, shot count will be just above 50 or so, no bottle, & it’s wood. 

I have talked to Charlie at GA Airguns & he is highly impressed with the Uragan. It’s never been my cup of tea, but have heard great things about it. 

 

[Penry]

That Uragan really is a sweet setup. I just watched the review video at Talon Tunes for it and the manual has something in it about only using it for target shooting and that it shouldn't be used for hunting. If it has that in there due to it needing to stay clean it might not be a great choice as a backpack or hunting setup. Seems like a strange disclaimer. Otherwise it's really nice.

 

[gurwery]

Brocock advertises the following shot counts for the Sniper XR:

.177: 140 shots at 18ft-lb

.22: 120 shots at 30ft-lb

.25: 60 shots at 46ft-lb

AGT Uragan .22

This rifle is a game changer…
.177/400 shots
.22/210
.25/110
.30/50

Rifle is 7.7 lbs
32.6 OAL
Barrel is 22.5 long. CZ hammer forged barrel…

 

[bowtieguy66]

So your seeing my dilemma huh? I dont know much about Kral Arms, would you guys even think about them? The np-500 and Dazzle listed at Krale website has them in the $600+ range. And have all the goodies, but I need assurances from the pro’s ( YOU GUYS )

https://kralarms.com/en/havali-tufekler/

4th and 7th one down, the Dazzle (stupid name) has a changeable tank, It boasts over 200 shots. The np-500 looks just light and ready, think its 140 shots? With it being just a Jumbo with a bottle and a tactical looking stock. I would think that both are built on the platforms here in the US? Its just the plunge and being pretty much on your own if we encountered problems. Found a Kalibrgun Carbine, but it’s $1,600



thanks for reply’s 

 

[Dingfelder]

Troy Hammer, who posts here as THammer, customizes Krals for well within your price range, by my understanding. He has strong accuracy points and I haven't seen him less than well-respected around here. You might want to look him up.

 

[gurwery]

 I like Kral, I hunt with a Kral Puncher Breaker in .25 Cal. 

If you buy a new Kral, you can set it up and shoot it and if your not happy with it just call and tell them your returning it for a refund.

Also if you want protection, pay with a Credit Card then your protected and can dispute thru your Credit Card company that’s on your side, to Protect you with Purchase Protection.

If you use a Debit Card you have no Protection on your purchase.

Be a Smart Consumer

Best of Luck!

 

[bowtieguy66]

Thanks, 

I will look him up and bend his ear. Krale is pay with cc, wish it was Paypal too. I checked the Brocock and I like, but its more $. Wish I could find the new Kalibrgun Argus somewhere. Anyone know anyone else that ships to the US other than Krale?

Thanks

 

[Dingfelder]

For Kalibrgun? Georgia Airguns or Air Arms, I forget which. They have one of the banners up top here. They will come up if you google a particular named model, too.

 

[Odoyle]

Wait for a used Brocock Commander for around $1000 from AOA or maybe a brand new discounted blem from time to time. They show up once in a while. Or UTAH Airguns if they get a used one add around $150 -- $200 more than what AOA would sell their used one for. They do show up if you just be patient and if you want to save money.

 

[Dingfelder]

Don't forget the classifieds here. Really good guns show up all the time, sometimes with desirable extras thrown in for nothing or close to it. Check out the member's accuracy score, whether he's on our scammer list, etc., first, of course. But some of our most well known and respected members go through a ton of guns and clean out their inventory fairly regularly.

 

[bowtieguy66]

Thank you, i will check them out too. Troy got back a hold of me and said that all the Kral’s on Krale are good to go, and that he can get all parts from him, plus information. Troy himself has ordered the NP-500 from there.



I will most certainly be on the watch on the classifieds, I’m not pulling the trigger just yet, waiting on more news from others who are selling. Thanks again

 

[Dingfelder]

Cool. Keep an open mind on Kral, but mostly via Troy. I've read people saying they first need work, but then are great afterward. Something about him struck me right -- his solid rep not least -- not to get all voodoo about it. Do your own due diligence.

 

[Blackpaw]

I have a Brocock compatto Sniper XR semi-bullpup in .177, FX Impact Compact in 22, and a Taipan Veteran Compact in 25 cal. I would for your price range recommend the Taipan, but it is rear cocking level. However, as everyone has told me and now I see, the Taipan (also Czech) is built like a something brick house and out of the box super accurate. The Taipan was the only gun of the 3 brands to come with a proof target and has by far the best trigger of the group, out of the box. Below are the 3 guns and the target is from the Taipan. I got the Taipan last Tuesday from Balistas, and they were great to deal with, and the scope is ordered and I hope it arrives tomorrow or Tuesday.

 

[rangur1]

all around power , shot count at least 100 , synthetic stock , durable , you have a hard time beating the uragan. there are plenty of great guns , but that shot count , that's the toughest. i have used kral , and they have their fans , but they are not in the same polished class as the uragans , taipan vets , brococks , fx as far as smooth operation and performance. krals not bad , just not in same class. obviously , or the other brands would be out of business. a $600 gun leaves out a few things a $1400 gun has. 

 

[Blackpaw]

Oh there is also the Dreamline pup I think that is the name. It is the bottle version of the FX Dreamline Bullpup. 

 

[Hapo]

...I am not even actually in the market and youse guys are making me head spin...!?!... .!. D .!.



...I would just buy this and almost did before I sobered up yesterday...I don't need no stinking shot count though...

...I really like it and that is/was almost reason enough...this is a good merchant with a number of nice guns availalbe...

https://www.bakerairguns.com/product/air-arms-s510-xtra-fac-pcp-carbine/