It can hang around long enough even with .30 in lungs, so the only reasonable difference is noise.
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Need Recommendations for a PCP Airgun to Deal with Coyotes
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That's a possibility, yes. But I brought a few slugs from my backyard to my neighbor to show him he need to adjust his PCP target setup. They bounced off the wooden target and made 30-40 partially forested yards. My .22 sometimes bounce off a PT lumber and fly back at me when the pressure in Notos gets lower. It also happily bounce off the lawn and flies who knows where.
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OK. I get it. My neighborhood is noisy as hell -- all the stuff you mentioned plus the added bonus of being half a mile away from the busiest interstate in the state and a mile away from the end of the runway of the busiest airport in the state -- comes complete with national guard fighter jet practice. So during the day time people here are immune to noise, UNLESS it sounds like a gun. Thank goodness for the donnyfl ronin on the end of my maverick.
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That's why I pass on shooting coyotes in my yard. I only have a 60 fpe 0.25 that would be more than enough with a well placed brain shot. The problem is coyotes rarely keep they heads still for long. Max115 has videos showing a missed brain because of head movement with the coyote running off, body never recovered. A 0.25 isn't anywhere near enough to ensure the yote stay within my property lines with a missed brain shot, or even a perfect lung shot.
I don't know anything about hunting with arrows, but maybe using one of these extra large broadheads with a double lung shot would stop a coyote from running more than10 yards. Some cut a 2.5" path!
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www.grandviewoutdoors.com I don't think anyone wants to see something like this on their local news!
$1,000 reward offered in fatal Los Angeles coyote shooting
A $1,000 reward has been offered for information leading to the arrest and conviction of the person who fatally shot a coyote in the Los Angeles neighborhood of Silver Lake.A resident out walking his dog found the coyote shot to death on a street in front
bakersfieldnow.com Here's a coyote that I have seen in my yard 3 times now.
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That was a horrible gut shotThat's why I pass on shooting coyotes in my yard. I only have a 60 fpe 0.25 that would be more than enough with a well placed brain shot. The problem is coyotes rarely keep they heads still for long. Max115 has videos showing a missed brain because of head movement with the coyote running off, body never recovered. A 0.25 isn't anywhere near enough to ensure the yote stay within my property lines with a missed brain shot, or even a perfect lung shot.
I don't know anything about hunting with arrows, but maybe using one of these extra large broadheads with a double lung shot would stop a coyote from running more than10 yards. Some cut a 2.5" path!
9 Deadly Broadheads | Grand View Outdoors
Nine high-performance, game-busting broadheads for the discriminant bowhunter.
I don't think anyone wants to see something like this on their local news!
$1,000 reward offered in fatal Los Angeles coyote shooting
A $1,000 reward has been offered for information leading to the arrest and conviction of the person who fatally shot a coyote in the Los Angeles neighborhood of Silver Lake.A resident out walking his dog found the coyote shot to death on a street in front
Here's a coyote that I have seen in my yard 3 times now.
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I've seen enough chipmunks running away after .22 Notos shot placed anywhere but head. I'm not sure a coyote will drop dead right on spot even after taking a .50 hollow point. Have seen dogs ran over by a truck, spine and bellows crushed, but still trying to crawl away for a minute before dying painfully in a long agony. A living being has enough oxygen in cells to survive w/o resupply for a few minutes.That's why I pass on shooting coyotes in my yard. I only have a 60 fpe 0.25 that would be more than enough with a well placed brain shot. The problem is coyotes rarely keep they heads still for long. Max115 has videos showing a missed brain because of head movement with the coyote running off, body never recovered. A 0.25 isn't anywhere near enough to ensure the yote stay within my property lines with a missed brain shot, or even a perfect lung shot.
I don't know anything about hunting with arrows, but maybe using one of these extra large broadheads with a double lung shot would stop a coyote from running more than10 yards. Some cut a 2.5" path!
9 Deadly Broadheads | Grand View Outdoors
Nine high-performance, game-busting broadheads for the discriminant bowhunter.
I don't think anyone wants to see something like this on their local news!
$1,000 reward offered in fatal Los Angeles coyote shooting
A $1,000 reward has been offered for information leading to the arrest and conviction of the person who fatally shot a coyote in the Los Angeles neighborhood of Silver Lake.A resident out walking his dog found the coyote shot to death on a street in front
Here's a coyote that I have seen in my yard 3 times now.
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Yeah, a lot of coyotes around the neighborhood. Cats and small dogs gone missing all the time. We had a wave of rabbit infestation a few years ago, that brought the yotes in.
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A 22/250 or 22 swift with a varmint bullet that blows the guts up will drop them pretty much where they stand with a lung shot.
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Not a .50 cal either. Most of them dropped without even a twitch! I think a 22/250 with the right bullets kills yotes faster than even a Zeus 0.95. Low velocity projectiles can't match high velocity expanding bullets!
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I've shot a small (8 lb) raccoon with a 32 fpe 22 caliber air rifle. It died pretty quickly but took 3 shots including one right between the eyes. I don't think that's enough gun for even a small one and will use one of my 25s if another one shows up with signs of being rabid. A really big raccoon can weigh 50 lbs or more however making a 40+ 25 caliber too small too. Raccoons are built differently than coyotes but don't seem to weigh a lot less.
But with a big enough airgun I am quite sure a coyote can be DRT with a well placed shot to the lungs or the brain. I killed dozens of squirrels with my 177 through 25 caliber airguns and I get reliable DRT results with even the under 20 fpe 177 and 22. They may take a step or two but don't run off. Shots to the front of the chest will let them run, however. Miss placing a shot to the skull is easier than to the lungs so if there is doubt I go for the body shot. 30+ fpe on a squirrel gives some margin for a shot not placed perfectly and drops them quicker. I don't know how small you'd have to go on a chipmunk but it would be under 10 fpe. Anything bigger than that will drop them reliably if you just place it correctly. If you double lung any animal it isn't going to run very far especially if the projectile exits. But if they know you are shooting at them and they are hyped up a coyote may run far enough to reach a neighbors yard. A brain shot should eliminate that possibility but I would be pretty confident with a 30 or 357 even on a body shot. With no lungs the brain is going to loose oxygen very quickly. Some people think squirrels are tough too. They certainly have run on me when I didn't place a shot well but with well placed shots they drop very quickly. Coyotes are a lot bigger so you have to have more penetration and I think you need a bigger hole to make them bleed out quickly.
But with a big enough airgun I am quite sure a coyote can be DRT with a well placed shot to the lungs or the brain. I killed dozens of squirrels with my 177 through 25 caliber airguns and I get reliable DRT results with even the under 20 fpe 177 and 22. They may take a step or two but don't run off. Shots to the front of the chest will let them run, however. Miss placing a shot to the skull is easier than to the lungs so if there is doubt I go for the body shot. 30+ fpe on a squirrel gives some margin for a shot not placed perfectly and drops them quicker. I don't know how small you'd have to go on a chipmunk but it would be under 10 fpe. Anything bigger than that will drop them reliably if you just place it correctly. If you double lung any animal it isn't going to run very far especially if the projectile exits. But if they know you are shooting at them and they are hyped up a coyote may run far enough to reach a neighbors yard. A brain shot should eliminate that possibility but I would be pretty confident with a 30 or 357 even on a body shot. With no lungs the brain is going to loose oxygen very quickly. Some people think squirrels are tough too. They certainly have run on me when I didn't place a shot well but with well placed shots they drop very quickly. Coyotes are a lot bigger so you have to have more penetration and I think you need a bigger hole to make them bleed out quickly.
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If all I needed the rifle for was coyote, I’d probably get a Gauntlet 2 sl 30 cal. Excellent price and plenty of hunting accuracy. I wouldn’t shoot a 30 as often as my 177, 22, or 25 cal rifles so it would just be for hunting. No sense in spending 1k plus just for that niche use. Spend the bulk of the budget on a NV scope or thermal.
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From now on I'm going to stay out of threads where issues of a legal or ethical nature are involved. I was warned by the moderator, and rightly so. I like tackling the physics of hitting small targets at long ranges -- that's the fun stuff for me. Cheers.
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I know this is an airgun sight but if the OP’s interest is most likely pesting or coyote dispatching and would need to invest in a good quality air rifle and some method to recharge it, my experience would absolutely push me to a CZ457 .22LR and a sparrow suppressor and subsonic ammo. You never have to be concerned with air leaks that would purge air while gun sits in the corner or safe while waiting for an opportunity.
Just my 2¢ and experience.
Of course do everything legally regardless of the route you take. Confiscation or arrest can result if rules/laws are not followed. YMMV.
Just my 2¢ and experience.
Of course do everything legally regardless of the route you take. Confiscation or arrest can result if rules/laws are not followed. YMMV.
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A 30 caliber airgun should have equal or greater fpe than a 22lr. It will also make a wider hole so as long as the hole is deep enough, which I think it would be, it would have greater ability to quickly dispatch a coyote. There are a few 22 caliber PCPs that can get up to 22lr velocity/energy and more 25s that can. But 30s and above are typically at LR fpe or above.
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IME, a .22lr is a poor choice for “dispatching coyotes” unless they’re in a trap.
Any rule of thumb that applies to a standard powered PCP (900fps-ish .22/.25/.30) should also apply to a .22lr. IE: close range, judicious shot placement and good tracking skills. I’ve seen coyotes pack a lot of lead a long ways.
Any rule of thumb that applies to a standard powered PCP (900fps-ish .22/.25/.30) should also apply to a .22lr. IE: close range, judicious shot placement and good tracking skills. I’ve seen coyotes pack a lot of lead a long ways.
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My opinion is to let the city Animal Control take on this job , I would be almost positive their are laws governing any type of shooting of projectiles in that area . P.S. what would you do with the body ?
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In 40 yards as the OP mentioned, a .22 subsonic suppressed is entirely adequate. Ask me how I know.
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