Neoprene for Soft Bedding Springers

[josh3rd]

Have you guys seen those post of soft bedding on gta? If not that's ok. Well they're talking about using neoprene that's a 1/8" thick with adhesive backing and it r reduces sound and vibration. Basically a win win for us springer shooters. What is the members take and opinions on this.

 

[Metalmaniac]

I have not seen the post. But this an old trick borrowed from the powder burner guys called pillow or pressure bedding. It helps take the harmonics out of the barrel for a more accurate gun you put a pice of the 1/8 self adhesive neoprene pipe insulation ( used in HVAC industry ) between the barrel and last 1/2’ < of stock to control vibrations. I don’t know how good it would work on a springer though . The three methods of stoping or isolating barrel vibrations are.

Full bedding the barrel, Pressure bedding the barrel, Full floating the barrel. Barrel can not touch stock because it causes the barrel to vibrate differently with each shot making the projectile land in different places on target. Hope this helps. MM

 

[Cherokee140]

Yes I have seen those posts.....really seems like it would not do much as that foam would smash pretty quick, and it is really not that tough of stuff, I think it would get uneven.

It is cheap enough to try, and seems like if it does not work just pull it out....no harm done.



I do know glass bedding works on powder rifles, and that is a bit of a process.

Really what I think is getting everything as close to the same shot after shot, There seems to be more of these posts popping up with more and more people getting into air gunning. People get a PCP then go to a spring rifle, and they have trouble. It usually starts with bad mouthing a specific brand, usually Gamo, as they are sold at wally world. They return it, buy an R7 sometimes they will put the time in, most of the time they think well I got a "good" gun now and I still can't hit the planet Earth with the muzzle pointed straight down. Then these questions come up.

I have said this many many times, MOST spring guns are hard to shoot, magnum springers are very hard to shoot well, lower power guns 500-ish fps, or really heavy monsters are more forgiving....get a heavy low powered gun and it generally shoots real well.

I have one of those Egypt trainers looks a little like a Hakim in 22, under lever from the 50's and that thing has to weigh 10lbs. Shoots very well.

Also have a few Gamo's some pretty old, others new and very high powered guns that are very light, got gifted to me because they would not shoot straight....they do shoot well it just takes lots of practice....and testing.

 

[Motorhead]

Strongly suggest placing silicone grease on the action side of foam ... OR suffer the wrath of foam adhering to the action having removal later being a real PITA !

 

[sonny]

I though neoprene was what they made wet suits out of not the same as a/c closed cell foam. Are they the same?

 

[fishinwrench]

I though neoprene was what they made wet suits out of not the same as a/c closed cell foam. Are they the same?

No, not at all. Neoprene is tough stuff.

Closed cell (craft foam) could be used as well I would think.

 

[josh3rd]

Thanks metalmaniac

 

[josh3rd]

Thanks for everybody's responses

 

[Greenarrow]

Try it and report your findings.

 

[Metalmaniac]

Your welcome. It probably is closed cell foam. Neoprene got stuck in my head. All your trying to do is make the barrel react to the shot cycle the same way every time for consistent results. I did this on some.22 rimfires with pretty good results. My preference is to float the barrel. MM

 

[RicL]

Anyone try it and have a current link of where to buy? I got a neoprene roll but it looks like hard rubber, I don’t think it could “set” even a mm without cracking the stock.

 

[Treefrog]

I did it with a Quest 1000(!) that was given me by a friend. It does help. I used a roll of high density foam tape.

It made the Quest a bit less obnoxious. I'm not a springer guy. (A bad experience as a child with a pogo stick put me off of them forever...)

Cheers,

J~

 

[RicL]

Yup, expecting it to work considering the feedback. Anyone got a link, preferably Amazon?

 

[cosmic]

1/8th-inch thick Neoprene sticky backed strips..

 

[kayaker]

Yup, expecting it to work considering the feedback. Anyone got a link, preferably Amazon?

Amazon sells it (sponge neoprene with self adhesive) Also most craft stores carries it and Joann's fabric shop.

 

[RicL]

Thanks, I’ll pick some up. Accidentally ordered some solid rubber strips the other day.

 

[Bob-in-WV]

Yes I have seen those posts.....really seems like it would not do much as that foam would smash pretty quick, and it is really not that tough of stuff, I think it would get uneven.

It is cheap enough to try, and seems like if it does not work just pull it out....no harm done.



I do know glass bedding works on powder rifles, and that is a bit of a process.

Really what I think is getting everything as close to the same shot after shot, There seems to be more of these posts popping up with more and more people getting into air gunning. People get a PCP then go to a spring rifle, and they have trouble. It usually starts with bad mouthing a specific brand, usually Gamo, as they are sold at wally world. They return it, buy an R7 sometimes they will put the time in, most of the time they think well I got a "good" gun now and I still can't hit the planet Earth with the muzzle pointed straight down. Then these questions come up.

I have said this many many times, MOST spring guns are hard to shoot, magnum springers are very hard to shoot well, lower power guns 500-ish fps, or really heavy monsters are more forgiving....get a heavy low powered gun and it generally shoots real well.

I have one of those Egypt trainers looks a little like a Hakim in 22, under lever from the 50's and that thing has to weigh 10lbs. Shoots very well.

Also have a few Gamo's some pretty old, others new and very high powered guns that are very light, got gifted to me because they would not shoot straight....they do shoot well it just takes lots of practice....and testing.

Your Egypian Hakim was made by Anshutz. They are great rifles.