Crosman New Crosman 3622

[3Crows]

Why in the world didn't they supply this with a steel breach? The cost should be minimum based on the quantity of rifles the will sell.

I will answer that for you. This is an enthusiast forum. Most people who will be buying this category rifle will not visit nor hang out on a PCP or air gun forum, they are not enthusiasts. In fact, most younger folks do not do forums at all prefering social media. These people do not know anything about a steel breech or why they would want one. And they are unlikely to mod the rifle.

This rifle is intended to make a break through into box stores where normally all one sees are $150 to $250 break barrel Gamo scatter guns. These people will be comparing a 48 inches long, nearly 8 pounds break barrel to a 36 inches long and 3.9 pounds PCP that will be packaged as a set at already below $220 for pump, pellets and rifle. A polymer breech in a world full of polymer guns is nothing to them.

For enthusiasts, there are already many mods that can be done to slick the rifle up, increase power, add a scope or steel breech. The 3622 is so tiny and light that every time I pick it up I nearly throw it through the ceiling. It is a cute little thing that will be fun to mod out, like enthusiast are want to do . Mine was already discounted. I am thinking that in a few more months we will see additional discounts or combo packaging options.

 

[3Crows]

And six decades between these two, Crosman 140 and Crosman 3622, wow:



The 140 is noticeably heavier than the 3622 due to the wooden stock (Beech wood) and the internal pumping miscellaneous.

 

[Mike_OH]

“break barrel Gamo scatter Guns” @3Crows I know all about that. Just
recently got back into airguns so I sold my two Diana‘s and bought two gamos, at the same time unfortunately or fortuitously got a torn rotator cuff so now I am going to go into PCP‘s.

 

[SteveV]

You sold two Dianas and bought two Gamos? REALLY? I don't think I would've told that -

 

[Mike_Lenardon]

Why in the world didn't they supply this with a steel breach? The cost should be minimum based on the quantity of rifles the will sell.

Because they can make a whole bunch more money selling you a separate steel breach.

 

[3Crows]

Because they can make a whole bunch more money selling you a separate steel breach.

That is one way of looking at it. But then FX could send you a barrel and system that would hold POI longer than a few minutes but yet folks buy them for thousands of dollars and then give FX hundreds of dollars or more to fix them. We can always be cynical .

 

[NorCal David]

Also, how many buyers of this rifle know how to shoot well enough to need a scope or better sights? Seriously, I am amazed that my buddies cannot hit a target. But I am frugal and stick to cheap air guns even though I have been trained by my Uncle Sam.

 

[nobody1]

The steel breech (at $50) will almost double the price.

I bet that Crosman has made more money off the steel breech than any other product they have.

I would not buy a 3622 at $120, maybe at $80, and 3D print the parts I want (breech, moderator, etc).

Even the Maximus (had 2, bought under $100 new) had a steel breech, and bigger air tube.

You cannot easily add a moderator to the 3622 because the air tube is almost as long as the barrel.

So, if you want optics (scope, etc) add about $50 for a steel breech.
If you want a moderator add about $20-$30 for a Crosman barrel 1/2-20 moderator adapter plus a moderator.
If you want a magazine, good luck, unless you want to spend $100+ for a custom breech and magazine.

This means that you need to spend $120 (air gun) + $50 streel breech + $20 moderator adapter + $20+ moderator.
Easily over $200 for a single shot air gun.

Or, you can buy an air gun which already has all of the above (plus magazines) for less than $200.

The 3622 may be intended for beginners who will just use it as it comes out of the box.
Or the 3622 may be intended for advanced users/modders who already have a significant supply of Crosman 13xx/22xx/362/etc air guns and parts.

I could easily mod a 3622 but there is no point.
There are far better PCPs available for about the same price.

 

[NorCal David]

Easily over $200 for a single shot air gun.

Mine with the steel breach shipped was $154. Nothing like the high end PCPs. Very happy with the purchase.

 

[nobody1]

Mine with the steel breach shipped was $154. Nothing like the high end PCPs. Very happy with the purchase.

You probably did not pay tax and used various discounts.

Anyways, for about the same price I can buy:
Beeman1358/1357 (wood stock,3000 PSI fill) - under $200
Beeman Chief 2 (wood stock, 2000 PSI fill) or Chief 2 Plus (3000 PSI fill) - under $160

They are all around waybetter than the 3622.
They comes with 2 magazines, single shot trays.
They usually have a 3000 PSI fill vs the 2000 PSI fill.
Some of them have wooden stocks,
They all come with some silencers or shrouds.

 

[benderville]

just gonna chime in my 3622 just arrived today 2 hrs in back yard and i already love it leaving it stock for now it only takes 30 pumps to bring it back from 28 good shots accurate and hits hard works for me

 

[Dr. Kralenstein]

I wasn't home to receive mine today so the UPS driver dropped it off at an access point. I hate waiting!

 

[Sawney Bean]

Why in the world didn't they supply this with a steel breach? The cost should be minimum based on the quantity of rifles the will sell.

I agree completely. I doubt it would cost Crosman more than $8 or so extra to use their existing metal breeches. Unless it’s a replica or novelty any rifle made these days ought to come with dovetails or a rail.

 

[RickH]

I think everyone is looking at this from the wrong angle. Crosman made this an entry level rifle for young shooters most of whom will never buy another gun of any kind. It will also attract some youngsters and some older first timers who get serious about it and become competitive shooters like those I‘ll see at a match Saturday. They will sell a bunch, turn a profit and introduce a lot of people to shooting. Makes sense to me anyway.

Rick H.

 

[nobody1]

I agree completely. I doubt it would cost Crosman more than $8 or so extra to use their existing metal breeches. Unless it’s a replica or novelty any rifle made these days ought to come with dovetails or a rail.

Crosman sells decent air guns (13xx/22xx/36xx/etc) that can be made even better if you buy their steel breech.
Crosman makes more money on their steel breech than any other air gun they sell.

 

[Sawney Bean]

Crosman sells decent air guns (13xx/22xx/36xx/etc) that can be made even better if you buy their steel breech.
Crosman makes more money on their steel breech than any other air gun they sell.

Which shows that they could easily charge more money for a better gun that came with a steel breech.

There’s no way you can convince me that selling a substandard product and then charging more to make it less substandard is a good strategy.

 

[Frozenspyder]

I think everyone is looking at this from the wrong angle. Crosman made this an entry level rifle for young shooters most of whom will never buy another gun of any kind. It will also attract some youngsters and some older first timers who get serious about it and become competitive shooters like those I‘ll see at a match Saturday. They will sell a bunch, turn a profit and introduce a lot of people to shooting. Makes sense to me anyway.

Rick H.

Yep. I just ordered one yesterday for my eight year old. He's really excited about it. It's a little more substantial than a Red Ryder but easier for him to operate than a multi-pump air rifle. I think it'll be perfect for him.

 

[3Crows]

The comparison of the 3622 to the Beeman China is faulty. The Chief is nearly twice as heavy and a much larger rifle. It also has a wiggly barrel and a China wood stock. I do not like wooden stocks and much prefer the synthetic to cheap China wood, not exactly XXX American Walnut. The Beeman really is everything I did not want in a simple and functional plinker and light hunter and the 3622 is everything I did want and none of what I did not want.

The 3622 is inexpensive and nicely put together, the Chief is cheap and China-ish.

Three HOSPs down, a zillion to go.

 

[Dr. Kralenstein]

@3Crows

Having owned a chief II plus, a beeman 1358, and a gauntlet(built on the same platform), I couldn't agree more. They are big, heavy, clunky, and not nearly as powerful as they should be for the size. The gauntlet is powerful, but having a friggin 28" barrel it should have some oomph.

Heck, even the 2028 pistol is a biggin. I definitely won't own another one. I was going to buy a barra 1100z, but they're also big and heavy. It's 2024 FFS, no reason all these guns are still giant boat anchors and barely breaking 30 fpe.

 

[extradrygin2001]

I personally like the 3622, and every other crosman that is built on the same platform. The gun is fine in factory form, or you can modify it to the size of your wallet. I own a 1377, 1322, 2240, will be ordering a 362 here in a minute. I don’t think I will personally purchase the 3622 as I already have a PROD with a rifle stock. And once upon a time I had a Benjamin Discovery which was an outstanding gun, wish I still had it. But you never know I am having a daydream about a light weight PCP with a peep sight, shooting Crow Magnum pellets and demolishing beer cans. Sounds like too much fun not to….