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JimBentley said:
Why in the world didn't they supply this with a steel breach? The cost should be minimum based on the quantity of rifles the will sell.
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It's still a cost. And one that will be passed on to you the customer. Also means that they will have to have more on hand in the factory's warehouse to service the current guns that have these breechs and this gun. Warehouse space is always limited.

Adding a gage... same kinda deal. and cost passed to you. so thats at least 4 more parts to keep on hand (see factory warehouse comment above). If those 4 parts dont already exist for other guns, now you have to make/order these parts, again at a cost that'll be passed to you. Adding the gage also means additional engineering-for both the gage and the airtube--increases the cost of the airtube (as now there's another step to drill the hole for the gage). Gage also means increased assembly time, and that cost will be passed to you. the trigger can be made a lot better with the "3 screw mod". Yes its plastic, but a) it already existed, thus no additional development for it b) it's 120 dollar gun.

This platform was designed to meet a particular market segment, at a certain price point. The things being complained about are the compromises made to meet that price point. This gun isnt for everybody. There are plenty of other guns out there with steel breeches and gages. But they are NOT US$120.oo
 
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IVe seen these used on a 1377 and 2240:
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dont see any reason they couldnt be used on the 3622...... just butt the rearward one against the breech
 
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dan_house said:
IVe seen these used on a 1377 and 2240:
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dont see any reason they couldnt be used on the 3622...... just butt the rearward one against the breech
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They will work just fine on the 3622, or the 362. In fact people used to put those on the Benjamin 392’s as well.
 
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dan_house said:
IVe seen these used on a 1377 and 2240:
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dont see any reason they couldnt be used on the 3622...... just butt the rearward one against the breech
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I have used the intermounts on a 392 briefly. They are a bit fiddly and kinda of clunky but once set up they do work. The biggest issue really with the 392 is the soldered barrel can be ripped from the pump tube. And those intermounts provide some leverage to do so. The 362 and 3622 are not of that construction so that is not an issue.

I think this would be correct for the 3622, I am not endorsing thse intermounts. If you really need a scope then my opinion is then you probably really need a steel breech:

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SteveV said:
You sold two Dianas and bought two Gamos? REALLY? I don't think I would've told that:eek: -
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I know I know the Gamo's are just bridge guns. The 52 177 wasn't a hunting gun for me so sold it off after 26 years. The 34 177 never grew on me, so sold it off after 25 years. I just bought an air compressor and Avenger 177 as my plinking gun to get started in PCP. This Crossman 3622 appeals to me now that I have a compressor because my daughter humors me and we have little competitions with a Diana Trailscout when she is home from college. I may replace the Trailscout with this Crossman now. ;)
 
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Mike_OH said:
I know I know the Gamo's are just bridge guns. The 52 177 wasn't a hunting gun for me so sold it off after 26 years. The 34 177 never grew on me, so sold it off after 25 years. I just bought an air compressor and Avenger 177 as my plinking gun to get started in PCP. This Crossman 3622 appeals to me now that I have a compressor because my daughter humors me and we have little competitions with a Diana Trailscout when she is home from college. I may replace the Trailscout with this Crossman now. ;)
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"The 52 177 wasn't a hunting gun for me so sold it off after 26 years. The 34 177 never grew on me, so sold it off after 25 years"

Wouldn't have told that either, but glad you're getting to shoot with your daughter. (y)
 
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I have another answer for why this gun came into existence. Its the same reason for the Virtus. 700fps advertised velocity may not ring a bell to most of you but thats the limit for Illinois, possibly other places. Above 700 fps and above .177 cal?..., Illinois will call it a firearm.

This is the asshat law of our local land and considering there are a lot of farms in IL this is an automatic purchase for most. Few will think twice. This is THE answer for maxing out a .22 out of box at 700fps unless you want to buy the Virtus for double$$ and scare the poop out of people with milspec. As a buyer in Illinois, I see exactly why they designed this gun the way they did. Its a task to actually hone in on good power in IL. This gun will be on every farm in IL by New Years. No questions asked. Mines on the way, the Virtus can wait. I know I'll have to fix a Virtus and am not looking forward to the problems. I still think its cool.

Also my take on the plastic not steel is.... if this is a farm gun, the more composite the better. Plastic doesn't rust. If I could achieve the same results I would even consider all plastic barrels and ammo etc.... anyone into 3d printing knows we can 3d print about any material, including diamond. I'll take the Carbon fiber encased nanodiamond PETG polymer breech plz.... steel is just cheap and will break lol
 
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WOW said:
I have another answer for why this gun came into existence. Its the same reason for the Virtus. 700fps advertised velocity may not ring a bell to most of you but thats the limit for Illinois, possibly other places. Above 700 fps and above .177 cal?..., Illinois will call it a firearm.

This is the asshat law of our local land and considering there are a lot of farms in IL this is an automatic purchase for most. Few will think twice. This is THE answer for maxing out a .22 out of box at 700fps unless you want to buy the Virtus for double$$ and scare the poop out of people with milspec. As a buyer in Illinois, I see exactly why they designed this gun the way they did. Its a task to actually hone in on good power in IL. This gun will be on every farm in IL by New Years. No questions asked. Mines on the way, the Virtus can wait. I know I'll have to fix a Virtus and am not looking forward to the problems. I still think its cool.

Also my take on the plastic not steel is.... if this is a farm gun, the more composite the better. Plastic doesn't rust. If I could achieve the same results I would even consider all plastic barrels and ammo etc.... anyone into 3d printing knows we can 3d print about any material, including diamond. I'll take the Carbon fiber encased nanodiamond PETG polymer breech plz.... steel is just cheap and will break lol
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Except this gun is in 22 cal, so you'll need a FOID card anyhow to purchase and have it shipped to you. Unless you cross over to MO and pick one up or have it shipped to a PO box in MO... not that I would be telling you to do that lol.
 
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WOW said:
Pyramid has confirmed this w me before. For IL, the law is anything over .177 that shoots over 700fps is a firearm. A virtus can ship to IL, as did my Jet .25, as is my current order for the 3622. Much love friend!
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Ok, then the law itself is misleading. It states ANY air rifle with a projectile greater than 177 OR a velocity over 700 fps.

That reads as anything bigger than 177, or a 177 that goes faster than 700 fps.

Either way, it doesn't affect me, I thankfully live in MO where communism isn't at the heart of my government.
 
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Dr. Kralenstein said:
Except this gun is in 22 cal, so you'll need a FOID card anyhow to purchase and have it shipped to you. Unless you cross over to MO and pick one up or have it shipped to a PO box in MO... not that I would be telling you to do that lol.
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I hate to dead horse this thing but in IL we just lost more gun rights at the first of this year so I did my due diligance. The saddest thing is that the people who are supposed to give difinitive answers and know the law really don't. State police openly admit to not knowing or coming accross issues with the law. While police admit not knowing, the answer by default at gun stores becomes the assumption that anything over .177 is FOID status. That is blatantly wrong, but this is information from clerk. Managers admit its juet a legal team decision and most won't mess with the products.... theyre already carrying fullblown firearms and a legal misstep is huge. It makes misinformation rampant.
In Missouri, big box stores like BassPro have issue with it because the mere idea of MAYBE there is a law that could be violated is enough to have a no-sale to IL resident without a foid policy. So accross the river in MO you have people upholding this bogus interpretation as well. The Bass Pro manager admitted it was merely a legal team decision.

I went to the Winchester range with my .25 Jet and they joked that "they'd be coming for me" and I laughed without calling him out on complete ignorance, managing a proffessional range without knowing gun law. I told him the real law and how the wording interpretation makes a 180 degree difference... how I know my rights unlike so many.... and he seemed very ok with that. The gun owner world will always look down on this stuff, and its that very ego which I think makes them dangerous. So yeah, I'm kinda ok with idiots losing gun rights.
Dr. Kralenstein said:
Ok, then the law itself is misleading. It states ANY air rifle with a projectile greater than 177 OR a velocity over 700 fps.

That reads as anything bigger than 177, or a 177 that goes faster than 700 fps.

Either way, it doesn't affect me, I thankfully live in MO where communism isn't at the heart of my government.
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It is so so very misleading
Lols wish southern IL would succeed to Missouri for SURE.

This stuff is all weird. Midway over in Columbia sold me my second Jet when they went on sale, but they have a more tentative shipping rule based on less diligant legal teams... they couldn't ship but I could pick up so I just did that for the 2 hr drive. They sell firearms as well and I have basically found that ANYONE selling firearms just wont mess with Illinois residents.

Pyramid Air, though, are committed to maintaining legal status for all of their guns in all counties in all 50 states. They can be trusted with answers about shipping, luv them for that.

Airguns ofnArizona will ship anywhere due to the basic constitutional right, they are protected. We as buyers may not be and I'm sure IL case law would love a precedent of an airgunner shipping in a Texan or something and killing a person. I truly hope this doesn't happen because AoA might inadvertently trigger tighter law halfway accross the country.

Ok back to the 3622 discussion sorry all
 
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Dr. Kralenstein said:
Ok, then the law itself is misleading. It states ANY air rifle with a projectile greater than 177 OR a velocity over 700 fps.

That reads as anything bigger than 177, or a 177 that goes faster than 700 fps.

Either way, it doesn't affect me, I thankfully live in MO where communism isn't at the heart of my government.
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The law is not over 177 OR over 700fps. Thats where youre wrong and its obvious you didnt pull this from actuall IL statutes. The statute states AND. They sell .177 guns at over 1200 fps right down the street. Thats proof its not OR.
These forums, online searches with yield the exact misinterpretation I'm trying to clear up, all that worls against people knowing the real law. I will copy and paste the statute next. I went thru a whole thing last December with this and this is the exact same issue... even when people go to search it online, plenty of places use the word OR not AND. This is a problem with basic critical thinking and the idea you can get legal answers from google searches or something.

Not to be a jerk but I think this is funny so gonna say it. Dr.... if you were a doctor you would now be fully guilty of malpractice. You not only mistook the law but found an illigitimate source for information and think you're right.... were you to prescribe or treat based on this you'd be making a huge mistake. The two are literally mutually exclusive concepts, and just sqying its one way doesnt make it so.
 
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WOW said:
The law is not over 177 OR over 700fps. Thats where youre wrong and its obvious you didnt pull this from actuall IL statutes. The statute states AND. They sell .177 guns at over 1200 fps right down the street. Thats proof its not OR.
These forums, online searches with yield the exact misinterpretation I'm trying to clear up, all that worls against people knowing the real law. I will copy and paste the statute next. I went thru a whole thing last December with this and this is the exact same issue... even when people go to search it online, plenty of places use the word OR not AND. This is a problem with basic critical thinking and the idea you can get legal answers from google searches or something.

Not to be a jerk but I think this is funny so gonna say it. Dr.... if you were a doctor you would now be fully guilty of malpractice. You not only mistook the law but found an illigitimate source for information and think you're right.... were you to prescribe or treat based on this you'd be making a huge mistake. The two are literally mutually exclusive concepts, and just sqying its one way doesnt make it so.
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Ok then. I guess all these years AND/OR didn't really imply to and and or. 177 and over 700, or any caliber over .18

That means ANYTHING over .177 caliber period. It also means OR a 177 over 700 fps.
 
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"Firearm" means any device, by whatever name known, which is designed to expel a projectile or projectiles by the action of an explosion, expansion of gas or escape of gas; excluding, however:
(1) any pneumatic gun, spring gun, paint ball gun, or​
B-B gun which expels a single globular projectile not exceeding .18 inch in diameter or which has a maximum muzzle velocity of less than 700 feet per second​

This is from the IL compiled statues available on the IL site.
Sadly, even more weirdness comes with the use of LESS THAN 700. So if its advertised as a max velocity of 700 that may break the law by 1fps. If advertised as UP TO 700fps this is likely safe by implying it cannot actually break above 700. Stupid stuff. Sorry to waste your time
 
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