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New DonnyFL’s dropped today!

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Well, if you click on this product link, it states it will not ship outside the US:

donnyfl.net

2 x 10.5 inches EMPEROR v3 – DonnyFL International

This Emperor is for the serious high powered airgunner. This version has a mono-core design and allows you to screw on an optional 6.5 inch extender to make it even quieter. Features: Compatible with .22, .25, .30, .308, .357, .457 and .50 caliber Please note: does not come with adapter, please...
donnyfl.net donnyfl.net


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Then again, on the contact page there is a statement that indicates moderators are not for sale.

donnyfl.net

Contact – DonnyFL International

SORRY FOR THE CONFUSION! We're sorry for the confusion but until further notice, our moderators will be unavailable for purchase on the website. In the meantime, you still have access to all of our adapters, accessories, compressors, and airguns. WE'LL INFORM YOU OF ANY CHANGES AS THEY COME!
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That site is not a scam, but try to find a moderator on it :)

Speaking of possible scam sites, here is a discussion about DonnyFL.net. That is the one I linked, above.

Donny replied in the thread below, that the .net site is for international distributors (as opposed to individual customers). It seem to allow US purchases, only; then on the contact page it contradict that notion.

Donnyfl back up? Or scam site?

A friend just sent me a link to donnyfl site that showed moderator for sale again, but it’s a different site Donnyfl.net Anyone know if this is a scammer site? Or is it really true that Donny is back in business? I’d think the YouTube fellas would be all over this!
www.airgunnation.com www.airgunnation.com
 
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So, print it with a thin wall; or get someone else to print you one. I design these things in my sleep. Latest are these; just for fun:
https://www.airgunnation.com/threads/22-ldc-bore-clearance-study-print-files.1300099/

These are more fancy, and perhaps closer to what you are looking for; except they should have integral outer tubes, if you are concerned about making something too strong:

Has Anyone Re-Wrapped a DonnyFL FX Moderator to make it Quieter?

Yes, I’ve used neoprene instead of the blue felt that came with the donnyfl. 1/16” thick.
www.airgunnation.com www.airgunnation.com
 
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Manufacturers generally have their moderators permanently affixed to the airgun to avoid hiccups with the law, as anyone can simply slap an adapter on and use them otherwise when they're not. It only has to attach and be effective once for the Alphabet org to consider it a suppressor. There are very few exceptions with airguns that come with detachable moderators. Whats worse is the latest from huben being both its form factor and a detachable moderator, not looking good.

I'd rather not play with that fire if I were a gunsmith or manufacturer or pcp's.

-Matt
 
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Manufacturers generally have their moderators permanently affixed to the airgun to avoid hiccups with the law, as anyone can simply slap an adapter on and use them otherwise when they're not. It only has to attach and be effective once for the Alphabet org to consider it a suppressor. There are very few exceptions with airguns that come with detachable moderators. Whats worse is the latest from huben being both its form factor and a detachable moderator, not looking good.

I'd rather not play with that fire if I were a gunsmith or manufacturer or pcp's.

-Matt
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I have no firsthand knowledge of airgun suppressors but the pics of the Donnyfl ones look like real screw on/off ones to me. Are they not? I'm even terrified to make an integral one because intent could be argued in the early phase of machining.
 
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I have no firsthand knowledge of airgun suppressors but the pics of the Donnyfl ones look like real screw on/off ones to me. Are they not? I'm even terrified to make an integral one because intent could be argued in the early phase of machining.
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The latest DonnyFL moderators have the specific QD mounts, and they also offer the QD adapters for the legacy moderators. I'm certain, this was with much coordination with their lawyers and those 3 letter agencies to ensure they would no longer run afoul of their perception of legality.

So I purchased a QD mount for my Ronin and attached it to my Maverick .30cal to ensure those agencies won't have issues with me!

Now the problem I'm dealing with is there are no QD mounts for the Emperor for my Benjamin Bulldog .357cal, so I'm only partially compliant.
 
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The latest DonnyFL moderators have the specific QD mounts, and they also offer the QD adapters for the legacy moderators. I'm certain, this was with much coordination with their lawyers and those 3 letter agencies to ensure they would no longer run afoul of their perception of legality.

So I purchased a QD mount for my Ronin and attached it to my Maverick .30cal to ensure those agencies won't have issues with me!

Now the problem I'm dealing with is there are no QD mounts for the Emperor for my Benjamin Bulldog .357cal, so I'm only partially compliant.
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Where are you getting all this IMAGINARY legal advice?
 
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The latest DonnyFL moderators have the specific QD mounts, and they also offer the QD adapters for the legacy moderators. I'm certain, this was with much coordination with their lawyers and those 3 letter agencies to ensure they would no longer run afoul of their perception of legality.

So I purchased a QD mount for my Ronin and attached it to my Maverick .30cal to ensure those agencies won't have issues with me!

Now the problem I'm dealing with is there are no QD mounts for the Emperor for my Benjamin Bulldog .357cal, so I'm only partially compliant.
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I have similar worries because the chickens we raise for meat eat all our homegrown MJ seeds & stems.
It's truly a states' rights issue
 
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https://www.reddit.com/r/airguns/comments/8eqnbn
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I get that, but the alphabet agency has put many people in cages by reading their mind and proving their intentions (sarcasm), although they apparently have a really good track record of proving intent. My primary business being to work on actual firearms could easily sway a jury of people too stupid to get out of jury duty to convict me of intent. I don't know how people in the airgun industry view the Alphabet org, but people in the firearms industry are terrified of them. They demand to make themselves relevant and often do. Theres currently 2 gentlemen sitting in federal prison that just got convicted for selling pictures of a machine gun part that was drawn on a sheet of metal.
 
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I get that, but the alphabet agency has put many people in cages by reading their mind and proving their intentions (sarcasm), although they apparently have a really good track record of proving intent. My primary business being to work on actual firearms could easily sway a jury of people too stupid to get out of jury duty to convict me of intent. I don't know how people in the airgun industry view the Alphabet org, but people in the firearms industry are terrified of them. They demand to make themselves relevant and often do. Theres currently 2 gentlemen sitting in federal prison that just got convicted for selling pictures of a machine gun part that was drawn on a sheet of metal.
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Yeah, I guess that's why we don't speak of firearms much around here. I get your point and being a gunsmith you definitely should be more circumspect. You'd want to make some kind of a firewall between the two disciplines (one regulated, one not regulated). Not sure how you would do that other than just stay away from removable AG moderators in your specific case or mark them specifically.
 
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Gentlemen, y'all are drifting out of bounds regarding the AGN prohibition on 2A, firearms and firearms parts. AIRGUN NATION is NOT the place for those discussions. AIRGUN NATION is NOT the place to discuss firearm laws, regulation, politics or politicians.

Thread will be locked if the trajectory does not get corrected.
 
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The latest DonnyFL moderators have the specific QD mounts, and they also offer the QD adapters for the legacy moderators. I'm certain, this was with much coordination with their lawyers and those 3 letter agencies to ensure they would no longer run afoul of their perception of legality.

So I purchased a QD mount for my Ronin and attached it to my Maverick .30cal to ensure those agencies won't have issues with me!

Now the problem I'm dealing with is there are no QD mounts for the Emperor for my Benjamin Bulldog .357cal, so I'm only partially compliant.
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Like my new Donny FL on my Ghost
 
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