Hello
I’m Steve just joined , from Birmingham looking forward to getting involved. Looks a great forum
I’m Steve just joined , from Birmingham looking forward to getting involved. Looks a great forum
New member from England
- Thread starter Steve 1974
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I like getting the perspective of UK airgunners. Working within your 12 fpe limit just makes things very different and not always in a bad way.
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Good question
Power up to 12 is enough if you want real smoothness and a nice shot cycle. I’m talking springers here not pcp . Accuracy and shot placement if far better than chasing fps and power . If there was no limit to our air rifles I still wouldn’t go much over 15fpe . I have used plenty far above that and they are a tad harsh . You can have unrestricted power if you hold a fac license
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Steve
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Yeah, springers are a relatively new phenomenon here. Prior to the 1990's airguns in the US were almost entirely multipump pneumatics and when we got springers we naturally gravitated to the cheapest and most oversprung ones available. Think of a plastic stocked Gamo with "1300 fps" etched on the receiver.
Even the high end ones suffered from this to some degree. My TX200 came stock at 17 fpe and never really delivered the accuracy I expected until I tuned it down to 12.5 fpe.
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this statement from Sawney Bean is utter nonsense.
yeah, springers are a relatively new phenomenon here. Prior to the 1990's airguns in the US were almost entirely multipump pneumatics and when we got springers we naturally gravitated to the cheapest and most oversprung ones available. Think of a plastic stocked Gamo with "1300 fps" etched on the receiver.
and Steve from the UK see you on AGF
yeah, springers are a relatively new phenomenon here. Prior to the 1990's airguns in the US were almost entirely multipump pneumatics and when we got springers we naturally gravitated to the cheapest and most oversprung ones available. Think of a plastic stocked Gamo with "1300 fps" etched on the receiver.
and Steve from the UK see you on AGF
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You had ARH and Beeman doing mostly mail order business, but unless you lived near them pretty much all any local retail businesses had for sale were Crosmans and Daisy’s. If they had Benjamin’s and Sheridans you were lucky.
And the internet wasn’t popular yet, much less internet marketing, so unless you were getting Beemans or ARH’s catalogs in the mail you were likely in the dark.
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but you forget that other people were selling Diana air guns as RWS
Natchez was selling RWS, Dynamit Nobel had catalogs
the fact they were harder to find does not make springers a new phenomenon
the springer air gun has been around for over 100 years and how they were bought and sold is another topic altogether.
and certainly, the springer air gun is not new to the UK
Natchez was selling RWS, Dynamit Nobel had catalogs
the fact they were harder to find does not make springers a new phenomenon
the springer air gun has been around for over 100 years and how they were bought and sold is another topic altogether.
and certainly, the springer air gun is not new to the UK
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They may have been around for over a century, but I never met a single person aside from myself that actually had one until the 90’s and I was an avid hunter and in the National Guard. I was a gun guy who hung out with gun guys and most of them had never even heard of spring piston airguns. Then by the mid to late 90’s it seemed like nearly everyone suddenly had a spring piston airgun, but almost none of them were Diana’s or HWs. They all seemed to be Gamos or Chinese and everyone was telling me how they’d shoot 1200 fps or some other dubious velocity.
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Welcome to the best AGN , ALL the guns i shoot are under 12 FPE . I have PCPs but i don't shoot those any more .
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@steve1974 Welcome to the forums. As you can see, some of us are a bit more spirited than others when it comes to our toys and tools.
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Welcome to an excellent forum Steve!
Tons of great information from mostly friendly folks.
Mike
Tons of great information from mostly friendly folks.
Mike
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Welcome Steve. I subscribed to Air Gunner and Airgun World for over a decade, back in the late 80's-90's. Great magazines.
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The US market must have been fairly hard to crack for European manufacturers 30-40 years ago .
I look at it like this .
In the uk air weapons have always been popular , the spring powered rifle was generally speaking a young lads introduction to shooting .add to this our strict licensing to own a firearm you can see why air rifles remain popular, the choice over here is vast .
Now compare the US your gun laws are totally different, why shoot air when you can shoot pretty much whatever you like .
I can understand why air rifles may have took longer to gain a following with customers in the states.
Dr beeman did a very good job to raise the profile of the air rifle , great man .
Thank you all for a warm welcome .
here is one of my rifles made in Birmingham just like me .
Webley Tomahawk 22
I look at it like this .
In the uk air weapons have always been popular , the spring powered rifle was generally speaking a young lads introduction to shooting .add to this our strict licensing to own a firearm you can see why air rifles remain popular, the choice over here is vast .
Now compare the US your gun laws are totally different, why shoot air when you can shoot pretty much whatever you like .
I can understand why air rifles may have took longer to gain a following with customers in the states.
Dr beeman did a very good job to raise the profile of the air rifle , great man .
Thank you all for a warm welcome .
here is one of my rifles made in Birmingham just like me .
Webley Tomahawk 22
you will buddy
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I think that one of the main differences is that most American shooters look at airguns as less than firearms and are reluctant to spend serious money on them. This is an enthusiasts forum, so obviously the people here feel differently, but I’d argue that we aren’t really representative of most shooters.
I used to think that way myself, but at some point I realized, I do 90% of my shooting with airguns and I should spend my money accordingly. My shooting friends will look at me like I’m nuts when I tell them I what I spent on my airguns, but they won’t hesitate to buy a $1000 revolver or AR that they will only shoot once or twice a year.
I’m guessing that in the UK with access to firearms being limited that most shooters don’t think that way in the first place.
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Yes that’s correct
Most people/friends that shoot Center and rim fire own and enjoy shooting air rifles . It’s cheaper, fun , quieter and you could argue a little more difficult out to 100yds . They tend to use the powder burners to get a job done , stalking/ hunting things like that
Most people/friends that shoot Center and rim fire own and enjoy shooting air rifles . It’s cheaper, fun , quieter and you could argue a little more difficult out to 100yds . They tend to use the powder burners to get a job done , stalking/ hunting things like that
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