New member - Going to be getting a PCP soon. Thoughts?

[JaceSpace1369]

Taipan veteran for easy tuning, amazing trigger, and amazing accuracy. Hubek k1 or leshiy 2 for semi auto, accuracy and power. Although the leshiy will be back pack friendly. AEA really don't fit any the tickets unless you don't care for that great of accuracy regarding their new semi auto models when compared to other airguns. Crickets are tack drivers but they tend to be on the heavier side, which are great for balance unless you're walking and stalking.

 

[igolfat8]

Would anyone warn against buying used for a first or second rifle (for a technically minded person)?

There have been some scammers pop up here and on other other forums so do your homework before making any purchase because the risk is real and 100% on you. Having said that I've bought several used air guns and have always been pleased dealing with the membership here at AGN.

 

[SteveV]

Welcome to the forum! I don't really have any suggestions, as when you say you are new to airguns, but you want something "at least as powerful as a .22" that rules out a lot of great choices, and pretty much leaves your choices to big bore airguns, which in my opinion, are a newer subset or choice and imho that put's you at a disadvantage.

To me, shooting and hunting with airguns has always been about doing more with less.

Good luck in your quest, folks here just love to help newbies spend their money!

 

[Nvr-Enough]

Would anyone warn against buying used for a first or second rifle (for a technically minded person)?

I would suggest buying used. Like stated before, alot of scammers so do your homework before buying. I have owned several guns. I have only bought 2 guns new ( Huben and Crosman 1701p ) I’ve had good luck with my used guns and a good way to try something different without paying as much. These is many guns to pick from. The problem I have is what do I wanna try next. Good luck, the hole is deep, but plenty of people down here to help. Just wish they knew the way out sometimes.

 

[EddieG]

So I started my PCP adventure with the Umarex Origin .22 and thought I would offer a few observations for beginners like me.

The rifle package with a hand pump was the deciding factor. Easy to try out PCP shooting for less than $300. Shoots better than I do and, once I understood the "two plateau" velocity range, I found that I can get 20 consistent shots from 2400 to 1800 psi with the hammer spring at minimum for 850 fps, and then about 35 pumps to be ready for another go.

CPHP - These are amazing! $7 for a tin of 500 at the Walmart, and this rifle loves them. Consistent groups of 1/4 to 1/2 inch at 30 yards. The limiting factor here is me. Oh, Crossman Premier Hollow Point. Oh and targets are in stationary, not sporting goods. Post-its, binder reinforcers, 3/4" round labels - almost free. And if you have a particularly noteworthy group, just pull the post-it and put it in your notebook.

O-ring Delete - tried this out, replacing the pellet probe o-rings with a snip of fuel line. Reduced standard deviation for a 20-shot string from 12 to 7.

Complaints - only 2. The scope rail doesn't line up very well with the barrel. Had to shim both rings and base to have any clicks left at all in either windage or elevation. And the comb is a bit low once a scope is mounted high enough not to interfere with the magazines.

I think I may be hooked.

 

[KatoKevin454]

no mention for AGT Uragan or Vulcan, both are up there with all the others, very tough high quality guns

 

[saridnour]

So what are best steps to avoid getting scammed? Length on site? Posts? Activity? Only Sales feedback?
Seems some Have a stratigy?

 

[saridnour]

So I started my PCP adventure with the Umarex Origin .22 and thought I would offer a few observations for beginners like me.

The rifle package with a hand pump was the deciding factor. Easy to try out PCP shooting for less than $300. Shoots better than I do and, once I understood the "two plateau" velocity range, I found that I can get 20 consistent shots from 2400 to 1800 psi with the hammer spring at minimum for 850 fps, and then about 35 pumps to be ready for another go.

CPHP - These are amazing! $7 for a tin of 500 at the Walmart, and this rifle loves them. Consistent groups of 1/4 to 1/2 inch at 30 yards. The limiting factor here is me. Oh, Crossman Premier Hollow Point. Oh and targets are in stationary, not sporting goods. Post-its, binder reinforcers, 3/4" round labels - almost free. And if you have a particularly noteworthy group, just pull the post-it and put it in your notebook.

O-ring Delete - tried this out, replacing the pellet probe o-rings with a snip of fuel line. Reduced standard deviation for a 20-shot string from 12 to 7.

Complaints - only 2. The scope rail doesn't line up very well with the barrel. Had to shim both rings and base to have any clicks left at all in either windage or elevation. And the comb is a bit low once a scope is mounted high enough not to interfere with the magazines.

I think I may be hooked.

Thanks for the feedback here. The tip on the O-ring Delete seems like a great idea.

 

[Oriade]

welcome on board

 

[saridnour]

no mention for AGT Uragan or Vulcan, both are up there with all the others, very tough high quality guns

Thamks for the lead on airguntechnology. Sharp looking guns. What makes them stand out for you?

 

[Phil.Probe]

I don't think .22LR power (120 FPE) and back yard friendly belong in the same sentence, unless you a have a really, really big back yard with a "bullet proof" backstop. Just like a firearm, you are responable for every round....

Semi auto is fun for shooting moving targets, double taps, or any type of fast action shooting with a red dot or LPVO. However you really want a scoped rifle for pesting/hunting/target shooting. Point being that one rifle/gun is never enough! Plenty of good cheap and accurate guns out there for under $400 that are back yard friendly (15-35 FPE). Semi-auto will cost you more though. Personally I'd rather have a few cheaper guns than one expensive one, YMMV.

If you intend to shoot a lot, then do think about the cost of ammo. Getting a gun that shoots the crosman hollow points (.22 cal 14.3 grain) well means you can plink all day with a tin for $6-7. The same thing with .357 slugs might cost you $250. Hell, even .25 cal pellets are 4 times the price of the crosman pellets.

Don't forget to factor in the cost of a air tank and/or compressor.

 

[Solo1]

Let me throw my 2cents in the ring. 1st get a m3 600mm 22 and a 600mm 25 barrel, this would be your hp long range and slug gun. The m3 is truly unique and there many that like them and many that hate them but your a shooter and if you’re like me ( i can switch barrels and projectiles with just the power wheel change) you’ll be happy just don’t go nuts looking for peak power shoot it around 900-950 and you’ll be fine.
Next you’ll need a good 177 get a daystate revere not real powerful but it looks great and shoots great too. After that you’ll probably know where you want to go with the hobby.oh this rabbit hole is deep and expensive thats why i suggest two high end guns to start with cause you’ll end up with them probably anyway

 

[Keyman62421]

I've been airgunning for 7 years. Just bought my first huben. I've owned several high end. PCP guns
The Huben probably would not be a good 1st pcp. However, it would more than fit the bill for what you want!
!Study on it and buy the best gun you can that fits you. Watch for repair reports. Not the warranty. You can be without your gun for weeks on end.
Don't skimp. It will cost you later. Get a good shovel, it's a deep hole you're digging.
READY, AIM, FIRE

 

[KatoKevin454]

Thamks for the lead on airguntechnology. Sharp looking guns. What makes them stand out for you?

I own an Uragan .25 cal, it is my most favorite gun to hunt with, balance is excellent, accuracy and power, I can pick off Ground Squirrels at 160 yards consistently, this gun is a Top contender, CZ barrel is top notch, built like a tank but light and easy to wield, and not too expensive.....

 

[Gerry52]

So what are best steps to avoid getting scammed? Length on site? Posts? Activity? Only Sales feedback?
Seems some Have a stratigy?

Check out the seller's history of transactions on AGN by clicking on their avatar, then clicking on their name, then click more options to find transaction history to get an idea of whom you're dealing with. Don't be afraid to publicly post, asking about one's reputation either. Reputation & history here gives you a good picture of the type of person you might be dealing with.

 

[saridnour]

I found a link with on tips for buying on here. Sharing in case this is picked up by someone in the search. Its in the classified rules:

Researching a Member and Safe Practices​

and thanks Gerry52 good advice on the public posting of info. I typically do that on any online sale as it does help document history! Sage advise!

 

[Raysfan]

I have purchased all my guns used. Talk to the seller. If a deal is to good to be true it probably is a scam. Positive feedback and use PayPal business.
The Taipan is a great choice. If I went back in time that is I all I would own
Have a .177 and .22 both standard.

 

[IRBent]

I would add Huben in the mix for a semi auto for your auto/semi auto list, then RTI P2 & 3, 3 just coming out for traditional shooting side lever action.

I've been waiting to see what reviewers have to say about the RTI P3, especially if it can turn down and accurately shoot lighter weight projectiles. Seems like the original and the P2 both had issues turning down for those.

 

[saridnour]

Any thoughts on Daystate Delta Wolf ? spendy but interesting.
There's just so many options to choose form.. no wonder people own so many..

 

[Max115]

Buy a PCP you can afford. Lots of good choices out there, just depending on your budget and the use of the gun.
People always buy low-ends one to start, but soon wanting to get better ones.

I started with break barrels and then got my first PCP the HW100T .22. Soon after that I was deep into the "rabbit hole" and bought Air Arms, Daystates and FX.

Do some research and read as much information here before you dive in. Don't forget to budget for scope, compressor etc. Once you start, you wouldn't be able to stop.... Good luck.