Hatsan New Velox semi auto pcp pistol

[BABz58]

He isn't lying. I've actually had pretty good experiences with Hatsun. I have a Sortie for a few years now that my kids shoot and I've never had one problem out of it.

With that said this gun doesn't compete with Huben or even the weak overpriced viper. I mean if they sell this for like 200 bucks it would be cool but anything more than that it's not worth it when there's clearly better options in the market.

Plus this thing looks like a toy.

Very well said! I agree that it looks like a toy.

 

[DonEnzone]

Just saw a video of a youtube reviewer who was offered 500 bucks by some rando if he deletes his negative review of the Velox.

He does make it clear that it was NOT from an official Hatsan email account, so it's not clear what kind of affiliation this person has with the company... but it is a little sus.

That being he said, he does not actually show the supposed email. So there is a possibility that he's making it up. No source = not convinced. But if it turns out to be true... then damn.

Either way, I'm not touching this pistol with a 10 foot pole. The QC on this thing seems rather lackluster. Rushed out to capitalize on the semi-auto PCP pistols craze that the GK1 and Viper brought forth.

 

[RobM123]

I have the velox , its fine for the price.. I see it as a plinker, so the power seems sufficient .. I dont think the goal was to compete with evanix and huben , those are 1000 + dollar guns , this is $360 with a pyramid air discount code. Its front heavy , and not being regged it wont cycle well below 2000 psi.( roughly) It uses the same tank connection as the jet1 , so those with a jet already have an upgrade on hand. Its a huge improvement on the sortie and those cost about the same.

 

[MakerPlumber]

I agree. I've had several Hatsans (AT44-10s .25 cal, AT44-10QE .22 cal, Hatsan Flash .22 cal, Nova QE .22 cal) and they were all great shooters. But they were HEAVY!!! I had to sell them, since I could hardly hold them. At my age, weight is a big consideration. I kept and still own the Flash because it is light and it is Accurate, with a capital A. I love it. The one Hatsan that I've owned that I did not love is the Hatsan Velox. I had one of the first in .25 cal and I loved the idea and would have loved the pistol if it did not have so many problems. I had the Velox packed and shipped back on the afternoon of the same day it came in.

Here is a rundown on my experience.:
1) Magazine Covers too tight. Had to loosen both ...., a LOT to get them to work.
2) Magazines do not cycle reliably. Had to remove and reload several time each use before magazine was empty.
3) Cylinder #1 (came mounted) developed an air leak:
a. After shooting about 6 round at about560 to 580 fps there was a loud 'pop' and
the next shot was 212 fps. Was using 20.06 gr H&N pellets.
b. After reload and another five shots, cylinder 1 was low on pressure. I pumped the
cylinder up to 250 bar. When I released the air from the feed line, the
cylinder air went down to about 100 bar. I tried re-pressurizing several times more
with the same result. Cylinder 1 has an air leak.
4) I tried to swap out cylinder 1 to the spare cylinder 2. I could not remove the
cylinder by hand. It had been installed far to tightly at the factory. I had to use a towel in a vice too
grip the cylinder hard enough to remove it from the Velox. Small air rush on removal.
5) Installed cylinder #2 on the airgun. Pressurized to 250 bar. When I released the
pressure from the feed line, pressure in the cylinder dropped to about 225 bar, but
recovered pressure back up to 230 bar. It seemed to hold pressure so I began
shooting a fresh magazine with 25.39 grain JSB pellets. Several times in shooting
the mag would not cycle. Reloaded several times but got to 10 shots averaging about
530 fps.
6) Reloaded the magazine and pressurized to 250 bar and again and pressure dropped to
about 225 bar and came back up to about 230 bar after releasing the compressor
line pressure. After two shots the magazine jammed and I could not get it out of
the pistol. I returned the Velox with the magazine still jammed in the breach, after removing
both air cylinders.

I had the best experience in discussions with Utah Airguns. They apologized for the problems that I had and agreed readily to my returning the Velox for replacement or refimd and supplied a prepaid label for shipping. The Velox is in transit back to Utah as I type. Customer Service at Utah Airguns is exceptional and was the best part of my experience with this airgun. I asked for a refund and will wait to see if any fixes are in the offing from Hatsan. This airgun could be a winner with a little QC and possible engineering changes but until I see them in the future, I'll hold on and listen for other experiences from purchasers. I really was disappointed with the problems I saw. I have since read that some who bought this airgun were experiencing 'bounce back' of the hammer spring, causing multi-shot automatic firings with one trigger pull. I did not experience that kind of 'auto' condition with my Velox. Thank goodness.

 

[MakerPlumber]

haha and it looks like I just bought it as a refurbished. something strange going on when filling it. if I go to 200bar everything is fine, but at 250 when I release my fill line pressure it dumps all the air with it unless I close the bleed and open again below 200. both tanks do the same. and I can only get one mag off on 200bar. I'm mixed emotions so far

 

[keesbo]

Hi, probably you bleed to slow.

One magazine is about right from 200Bar.
I always shoot with a line on my tank, with a regulator set at 180Bar. Excellent like that.

You must use a remote line because of the air consumtion of the pistol, because it is a semi auto.

 

[markhooper]

You know, of course I was hoping for more.

But what's the price going to be on this? And what if we compare it to CO2 pistols? My Crossman Vigilante does maybe 7 fpe. So this thing is double that power, and with .177 or .22 it's going to have more respectable velocities and be able to reach out further. I wouldn't bother with .25 caliber on such a weak pistol. And probably the .177 is going to be the best choice.

Personally I'd rather use my compressor than use CO2 carts.

The question is will Hatsan deliver on the price considering what it is? I paid $75 for my Crossman. If this is more than $200 than to me I'm priced out. And it has to be accurate for 25 yards too.

I have the velox in 22.. it's around 600 fps with 14-18 grain pellets.. it's a decent gun.. although it is a bit chunky.. and heavier than I'd like..no problems so far..as long as you don't use too heavy of pellets..it will shoot the jsb and JTS 25 grain pellets..
Mark

 

[Rob_in_NC]

I have the velox in 22.. it's around 600 fps with 14-18 grain pellets.. it's a decent gun.. although it is a bit chunky.. and heavier than I'd like..no problems so far..as long as you don't use too heavy of pellets..it will shoot the jsb and JTS 25 grain pellets..
Mark

Interesting... this one caught my eye a bit earlier on. Can you go into a bit of details on it? Chunky... I can see that, but does it 'feel' pistolish? Technical term and subjective at that, I know. What's your experience with shot count? I would see this as a 25 yard and under plinker gun and maybe if accurate enough some light pesting. Thoughts?

 

[markhooper]

Interesting... this one caught my eye a bit earlier on. Can you go into a bit of details on it? Chunky... I can see that, but does it 'feel' pistolish? Technical term and subjective at that, I know. What's your experience with shot count? I would see this as a 25 yard and under plinker gun and maybe if accurate enough some light pesting. Thoughts?

yes it's the only PCP pistol that I have held that felt right beside my friends huben GK1.. I think I might try to adjust the hammer spring a little bit less as it's got plenty of power.. 2 magazine full but the last shot usually sounds full auto.. it's just air from hammer bouncing.. definitely a plinker, and I regularly shoot a 3"spinner at 30 yards.. only open sights..
PM me and we can talk more about it or other guns sometime..
Mark

 

[markhooper]

yes it's the only PCP pistol that I have held that felt right beside my friends huben GK1.. I think I might try to adjust the hammer spring a little bit less as it's got plenty of power.. 2 magazine full but the last shot usually sounds full auto.. it's just air from hammer bouncing.. definitely a plinker, and I regularly shoot a 3"spinner at 30 yards.. only open sights..
PM me and we can talk more about it or other guns sometime..
Mark

I also made a cloth holster for mine but I wish the gauge was on the bolt side or better yet on the end of each tank so you can always tell if you filled it without putting it on the gun
Mark