Newbie question on magnum springers
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The power output they are capable of. If you’ve never shot a springer, I suggest learning to shoot a regular first. They can really be like nothing you’ve shot before with the recoil, more so the magnum.
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The "magnum" Benjamin Trail NP XL .22 has a 29mm piston while the standard Benjamin Trail NP .22 has a 25mm one. (Thanks to Just Zack 2 for the information.) Harder to cock, more intense recoil and more accuracy-challenged than standard, pellet does move faster for better knockdown power, if you hit something. WM
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Magnums offer more power, more recoil and can be louder, depending on which rifle you get. I have a first generation .22 Gamo Magnum single shot and this thing is probably the most powerful .22 “springer” out there with a 33mm cylinder and 41lbs of cocking effort which offers plenty of power for hunting small and even some medium game.
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IMO anything over 18 fpe qualifies as a magnum. Magnums are harder to shoot accurately. Choosing a magnum springer for your first springer is a recipe for disappointment.
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Wow!
Thought 27-pound cocking effort was something, still, not as bad as the 50-pound .30 springer one. WM Upvote 0
Lol, yeah can make plinking around not so fun for some. But I love it, lots of power and accurate with the right pellets. Just gotta make your shots count because reloading can take some effort.Wow!
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Will admit, magnums must dump lots of energy, so far what I've hit just collapses, no jumping or flopping around, strangest thing to see. WM
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Yup same here, Within 35 yards I like shooting the H&N Baracuda Hunter 18.21g out the barrel they shoot about 800fps with 35 joules and these pellets dump some serious energy on impact, they ridiculously mushroom.
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A magnum spring gun will slap your face harder, break you scope more quickly, be impossible to keep the scope from moving even with four rings, buck forward in your hands, miss everything you shoot at, annoy the bejeebers out of you and take all of the fun out of shooting.
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Mr. Garcia,
Just noticed you're new here, welcome, been nice talking magnum springers with you. Few years back, neighbor sold me his one-year-old Benjamin Trail NP XL .22 for $25, after I mentioned an armadillo problem. He was ready to trash gun, hard to cock, heavy, no accuracy and terrible trigger. Good barrel cleaning, Crosman trigger mod, learning "artillery hold," and finding preferred pellet (H&N Sniper Magnum 17.9 grain) ended up with a decent 25-yard shooter. Mainly into PCPs now but occasionally bring the old girl out for a workout. Regards, WM
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I love magnum springers, the more powerful the better. For some reason I just find them to be fun to shoot. I like the challenge they present and the impact when they hit and I'd really like to see one with 40-50 fpe simply for the fun factor.
That said, if you want to shoot small groups or hunt you'll probably be better served by a rifle in the 10-18 ft lb range. There are a few exceptions like the Diana 54, but most of the magnum springers sacrifice some accuracy for power.
That said, if you want to shoot small groups or hunt you'll probably be better served by a rifle in the 10-18 ft lb range. There are a few exceptions like the Diana 54, but most of the magnum springers sacrifice some accuracy for power.
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Yes, thank you. My dad passed me down his .20 benjamin sheridan and from there I was hooked, then I wanted something more powerful so I got me the .22 Ruger impact max which was pretty decent but then again I wanted more, so i got the .22 Gamo Magnum single shot which is pretty awesome. But now Im looking into getting a PCP and I've been eyeing the .22 Airforce Condor SS, I figured if I’m going PCP, I’m getting something with power and I’m sticking with.22 because I really don’t need a bigger caliber. What are your thoughts on that particular rifle? Thanks
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If it’s a cheap springer, the magnum will shake itself apart faster.
I’m not a fan of cheap springers. Air Arms, FWB, Diana, old Webley, old Theoben, or Weihrauch built only for me. It sounds snobbish but there is a minimum build quality that I consider to be functional.
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Magnums are definitely fun but they do take some extra know how to shoot well. I think a big misconception about magnums is that they extend your range. They really DONT unless you're taking pot shots. What they do do is give you more room for error at closer ranges as well as up the size of the pest/game you are going after. Even then, a more modestly powered springer can do the same thing and generally do it easier and more accurately. As a general rule of thumb, I dont shoot at pests further than a gun can group 1" consistently. If I take 10x 5 shot groups and average them together and that average is 1" that is my max range for that gun. The only magnum that I currently own that can do that at 50yds is my Sig ASP20. Plenty of standard power springers will handle that though.
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Nothing wrong with Airforce guns from what I've read, other than comments on time to upgrade platform is due. Others respond why fix, what ain't broke? Longer, single-shot guns aren't for me, just a personal preference. Also, I'm a .25 fan-boy, own 5, .22 is world famous and beloved, I like bringing more to the fight, again, personal preference. Go for it, be careful, though, PCPs are a slippery slope. WM
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Don't want to hijack OPs thread, if you want, ask question in general discussion, or PCP section, many folks do, I'll chime in. Briefly introduce self, what you'd mainly use PCP for and budget. Prefer wood stock or synthetic, traditional styling or bullpup? You'll need to research "regulated" and see if you prefer. (Matt Dubber's 9-part YouTube series, "Airgun Ballistics, 101," helped me.) You'll need a way to charge PCP; handpump, 4500psi compressor or carbon fiber tank to fill at nearby paintball, firehouse or scuba shop. If don't prefer, after 10 days and 10 posts (you have 7 now) you'll earn PM privileges, you can reach me that way, plenty do, either way glad to help. WM
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