Last week I ordered a Hatsan 1000x in .25 caliber from Amazon. I have probably shot 30 pellets through it in total this week. Today my son and I went out and started shooting at some targets. I could not believe how excited he was and how much fun he was having as he spends a lot of time on video games. After maybe 20 shots he pulled the trigger and It sounded like it exploded. We were both in shock. It smoked a little and he started complaining about the ringing in his ear and I was still so surprised but relieved that he was okay. He did not have eye protection and neither of us was wearing ear protection. I never assumed that a pellet gun would ever fail like that. Obviously, my fault. Curious about this failure in the picture and do most people wear eye & ear protection when shooting. Really a shame as we were having fun but glad he is okay. Thanks
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I never wore eye protection either until one day I heard the familiar sound of a tumbling ricochet whizzing by my head and hitting the wall behind me. Now I wear eye protection!
As far as the noise goes some lube slipped past the seal and dieseled hard enough to create combustion. Shoot it some more and it should go away but there is the possibility that the piston seal is knicked and letting lube get past. Hatsans are not the easiest to work on but they aren't terribly difficult either if you're good with your hands. The obvious other option is to send it in to Hatsan and let them fix it. I'd push that breech seal back in and shoot it a bit more to see what happens first though. With a little luck it was a fluke.
As far as the noise goes some lube slipped past the seal and dieseled hard enough to create combustion. Shoot it some more and it should go away but there is the possibility that the piston seal is knicked and letting lube get past. Hatsans are not the easiest to work on but they aren't terribly difficult either if you're good with your hands. The obvious other option is to send it in to Hatsan and let them fix it. I'd push that breech seal back in and shoot it a bit more to see what happens first though. With a little luck it was a fluke.
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Hi Sqwirl57, I really appreciate you taking the time to respond. I should have been more descriptive in that the gun is non-operable now. If you look at the picture it looks to me like an o-ring has come away from the barrel. That area had previously been smooth and level. The o-ring has now come away from its resting area and the gun will not close. Any idea about the 0-ring?
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Actually now that I zoom in on the seal it looks like it may be split? Its hard to tell from the picture. If thats the case you'll need a new seal. Here's a link to them:
hatsanairgunsusa.com
HatsanUSABreak Barrel Breech Seal – 5-Pack
Break Barrel Breech Seal – Package of 5 Fits all Striker, Edge, Alpha, 25, 85, 87, 95, 125, 130 and 135 series models.
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Sqwirl57, you are absolutely correct and it took about 2 seconds to reseat. Should I keep an eye on something like that? I thought I had to go through the trouble to send it back etc. I really appreciate you letting me know and for the others that read the question and did not bash the heck out of me for a dumb question. Thanks again.
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How often do they need replacing? The gun is 5 days old? ThanksActually now that I zoom in on the seal it looks like it may be split? Its hard to tell from the picture. If thats the case you'll need a new seal. Here's a link to them:
HatsanUSABreak Barrel Breech Seal – 5-Pack
Break Barrel Breech Seal – Package of 5 Fits all Striker, Edge, Alpha, 25, 85, 87, 95, 125, 130 and 135 series models.
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Not a dumb question at all. We've all been new to something before and something you're new to just sounded like an explosion went off in your kids hands. You're rightfully a bit cautious.
Grab some ear and eye pro and go have some fun with your new gun! Give it another 100 shots or so and if it doesn't stop smoking/dieseling then it'll be time to contact Hatsan.
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Not often at all unless something like what happened to you earlier keeps on happening. If thats the case there is a bigger issue at hand and will need a full disassembly to correct.
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As a final note just in case you weren't aware. Always keep one hand firmly grasped on the barrel and the stock tucked against the inside of your thigh while loading a pellet. It's rare but if a sear slips the action can slam back upwards. A firm grip on the barrel will prevent it from closing on your finger.
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If you son is cocking the Airgun make sure he is closing it so it is locked in place. It seems that maybe the gun was not fully closed.
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Teach him to absolutely keep fingers away from the trigger while cocking the gun. There's been nasty pictures of guys fingertips almost missing from having them in the wrong place at the wrong moment with break barrels. Feed his enthusiasm though, great sport!
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I was so excited once with a new barrel, I forgot to change the probe. 22 to 25 barrel. Boy was that loud. I tend to put a ear plug on the right ear now.
Allen
Allen
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not familiar with the new break barrel guns but 30 years ago I think both my rws 34 and my rws 48 had antibeartrap devices.. I'm sure the 48 did, but somehow I think the old 34 had something too.
I'm going to have to check my gamo varmint shotgun 22 smooth bore and see if it has a bear trap mechanism.
Mark
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I wanted to provide an update. I felt like something may be wrong with the gun and contacted Hatsan directly. I received a quick reply after filling out the warranty form. They provided a Fedex RMA number and I dropped it off at Dollar General. A couple of days later Shane contacted me and let me know they had received it and were taking a look at it. He got back a day later and said that it looked fine to them. He explained that it could have been a "dieseling" issue or it may have not been closed fully that particular time. I felt like this was perfectly logical and I felt better they verified it was fine. They are sending it back and I'll provide an update after shooting some more. I thought the customer service was quick, communicative, and took care of my issue which is what you want. I felt like any time a company does something to help they deserve to be acknowledged. Thanks, for everyone's suggestions and time took to respond.
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