"On one hand I've been blessed to have witnessed Humanity at it's best (in the 1950s till the mid-sixties). On the other hand I'm cursed to be witnessing the moral decay responsible for the downfall of Mankind happening before our very eyes as you read this. You no longer even hear words like honesty, integrity, morals, ethics, respect... or self-respect."
^THIS!^
So in your mind, is the airgun industry is mutually exclusive from labor costs for custom rifle builds?
Thats how I read this too, this is a huge problem, its as if people don't value other humans time and expertise anymore .......
So if someone does a few upgrades on their gun and then turn around and sell it asking 25-50% more over retail, is that okay? If the work was subbed out sure I guess it could be added, but these are toys and a hobby for most people tinkering on their guns. I look at it as I'm not paying you extra from your playtime.
The HW35E's are $529 new. The kits are $129 shipped not $89 and they charge $90 to install. They give hime $100 off and he says they are trying to rip him off. If its the Store I think it is, which, more and more, I'm pretty sure it is, then they are considered to be a very fair store. Seems like to me that he just doesn't know his prices.
Y'all mistaken as to my motivation in going into this reputable airgun store. I went in there just browsing . . . looking to maybe purchase a nice used rifle. That's what the salesperson showed me, and that's a nice used rifle. I do take exception to his trying to make this sale at virtually retail value. I may be an old rube, but I'm not stupid. This rifle normally comes with it's own hard case, but not in this case. It had been shot . . . heck, I'd been shooting it after all. Who else. . . don't matter, it's used, after all. The sales clerk told me so. There was no factory warranty, a Vortek, although highly desired, voids any factory warranty. Oh, let me remind y'all, that mark-up walnut stock, well it sure looked like walnut stained burch to me. All that young man had to do was be upfront, stated his "firm" price a bit more reasonable, and just maybe, each of us could'a gone home with a smile on our face that night. But no . . . not with this rube.
Y'alls stuffed with hawse feathers, friend. Just re-checked the Vortek web page and they're still $89. If'n you can't install one yourself, learn, I did. You're right, the rifle does retail for $529. . . but to reiterate, this one is now used and no warranty. By golly I'm not paying for some yoke playing at a Vortek install. Sorry fella, we're looking at the opposit end of the rifle, and I got the butt end at my shoulder on this one, friend.
Vortek Tuning sells HW35E HO kits with the piston seal for $129 shipped. I don't know anyone who would buy the kit without the piston seal, especially when Toms is superior to the stock version. I have bought from him many many times and that is the current price as of today. Airguns of Arizona charges $109.99 for the tune kit for that model as of today. AOA are the one's that cover Weihrauch warranties in the US because they are the main distributor. You were right there in the store and could have said. "Hey, since you guys installed a Vortek tune kit in it yourself, will you still cover the warranty." And they would have said yes we do. AOA has installed many over the years and the price has been $90 for installation. It hard to call a salesmen dishonest when you don't really seem to understand what you're talking about.
Lets just agree to disagree. Calling out a salesman, and by inference a retailer, for shady practices when you simply don’t how items are normally priced is bad form IMHO.
