Now that strelok pro is no more what do I use?



And where does "Chairgun"
(D. G. Eades UK) with the donation (to eliminate the flyerovers of the 1st free chairgun) fit in the pioneered list?

John
And Only my thoughts on "airgun ballistic calculators" . I do have Chairgun V2 stored and use Brad Troyer's calc. sometimes, but just at my desk. As I have never met an airgun or accessory that wasn't fun I would love to once see (you know like drive it tell the wheels fall off it fun all day airgun shooting) the greatest radar, reticle, ..... rig made today. And/or if I was making $4,000+ rigs Guaranteed to outshoot the best shooters in the world, useful utility.
Shot rf to off set college costs but 1st modern airguns were rifle temporary replacement (surgery's '99 ) just for trigger time (and I should have gotten an FWB or such but did not know.Or a "springer" with three barrelsfrom the UK for $1,400 humm). Took 10 years for me to discover tiny-bore, Field Target at the TVA, Good Ole Boy's, Invicta, (the rare Widdow Stephens -where the meek wont show and the weak will be blown away, in the 50mph winds that would blow a closed Pelican case down range LOL) and Squirrels!
That .177 IS a teacher! 20fpe max (any cal. even .25 and I haven't tried one but that silly .30 likely is a hoot and works well as intended) teaches. 12fpe teaches. Taught me 10.3g will "group" (a close gathering , 1-1/2"+ in 5-15mph swirling wind at 100 yards but at 110 yards began key holing madly and groups at 2-1/2"+ . Just for me the learning something directly about shooting is as much fun (more) than doing every possible thing to an Impact and such.
For some it might be if you got a.177 with match trigger and spent 50,000 leaning it (wind and elevation being the last legal doping in sports) when shooting Anything else 60fpe .25 at 100 - is like shipping boat drinks in a cool light breeze- or your back country Idaho Elk all the .177 exp and no phone sthuff you leaned makes you need such "tools" . It might happen. And you might just smile at your hunting partner (who has All the gear) and smile. Yup.
But, as long as you are smart enough to realize no matter what any device say's the Sun does Not set in the east (you are near magnetic rocks eh?) then I recken it's all fun.
Just me, I found in .177 extreme squirrel head shot range to be approx. 73 yards.


Are most using these just for set up or precession shooting at extreme range on varmint?

Life is Good. Have fun.

John



Hi John, 😊

🔶 I apologize if there was ballistic calculator for airguns before Hawke's ChairGun!
So, D. G. Eades in the UK made one, also called "Chairgun"?
Well, the fieldtarget pioneers in the UK have done a lot to move our sport forward.


🔶 I use ChairGun (and other ballistic apps, one by another UK chap, G. C. Conway [GPC Ballistics], and Strelok) for two things:

(1) While in the field — I calculate my turret settings or holdoff required for different shots.
(2) While sitting in a chair — I use ChairGun to calculate what-if scenarios and compare different power settings, projectiles, and effects of wind.


Just like you mention how shooting .177cal at long range, or in strong winds, teaches you a lot — the ballistic calculators teach me a lot, even if I don't have the time to go and shoot (besides the shooting time, it requires 2 hours of driving and 3/4 hour for packing and setting up).

Cheers, 👍🏼

Matthias
 
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SteveP-52

"You might consider looking at Mero from GPC Ballistics."
I have been using MERO for about a month now and while it works well for my .25 caliber, I'm having some issues with .22 caliber.
Comparing it to Strelok, the .25 caliber is pretty much the same until longer ranges come into play, then there are discrepancies, but in a good way.
That same comparison in .22 caliber is nowhere near what Strelok has to offer, so I'm working on that caliber to find a resolve.
Not sure why just yet, it's just WAY different, but Strelok has been pretty much spot on in the .22 caliber.
Strange.
mike
 

SteveP-52

I'm having some issues with .22 caliber. [...] Not sure why just yet, it's just WAY different, but Strelok has been pretty much spot on in the .22 caliber.
Strange.
mike


Mike,

keep us updated, plz.

And if necessary, contact the developer. ➧ Let's make sure the legacy of G. P. Conway lives on and serves airgunners well.

Matthias
 
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SteveP-52

"You might consider looking at Mero from GPC Ballistics."
I have been using MERO for about a month now and while it works well for my .25 caliber, I'm having some issues with .22 caliber.
Comparing it to Strelok, the .25 caliber is pretty much the same until longer ranges come into play, then there are discrepancies, but in a good way.
That same comparison in .22 caliber is nowhere near what Strelok has to offer, so I'm working on that caliber to find a resolve.
Not sure why just yet, it's just WAY different, but Strelok has been pretty much spot on in the .22 caliber.
Strange.
mike
Like JS above me suggested, contact the developer. He's always tweaking to make it better and at least from everything I've read about it, appreciates the input from actual users to keep making it better.
 
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