You guys notice there are all kinds of organized shoots that exclude.anything above .22 cal guns? My question is, are there "Nothing under .25" shoots?
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The problem with staging a shoot is the stigma of competition scares away a lot of shooters, even if it's called a shoot rather than a match or competition. That being the case, the more specialzed the shoot (like nothing under .25), the greater the probability the individual(s) staging the shoot will be sorely disappointed with turnout.
At the height of my networking with local airgunners I staged a long-range airgun 'Fun Match' that was well-attended. I'm sure calling it a Fun Match, with minimal rules and restrictions, using tin cans on fence-posts as targets from 50 to 100 yards, and allowing whatever shooting aid or rest the shooter could physically get to the shooting line under his own power had much to do with attracting many shooters with performance anxiety that would have been repelled by anything more competition-sounding.
When I longed for some kind of long-range air pistol competition badly enough, I founded pistol field target competition by staging pistol events at our field target club's rifle FT matches. Starting with monthly matches, then state championships, I was able to introduce pistol field target to the rest of the U.S. when our club hosted the National Championships. I hope to take pistol FT global when/if the U.S. again hosts the Field Target World Championships (possibly in 2021).
Point is, if you want something bad enough, sometimes you just gotta make it happen yourself.
At the height of my networking with local airgunners I staged a long-range airgun 'Fun Match' that was well-attended. I'm sure calling it a Fun Match, with minimal rules and restrictions, using tin cans on fence-posts as targets from 50 to 100 yards, and allowing whatever shooting aid or rest the shooter could physically get to the shooting line under his own power had much to do with attracting many shooters with performance anxiety that would have been repelled by anything more competition-sounding.
When I longed for some kind of long-range air pistol competition badly enough, I founded pistol field target competition by staging pistol events at our field target club's rifle FT matches. Starting with monthly matches, then state championships, I was able to introduce pistol field target to the rest of the U.S. when our club hosted the National Championships. I hope to take pistol FT global when/if the U.S. again hosts the Field Target World Championships (possibly in 2021).
Point is, if you want something bad enough, sometimes you just gotta make it happen yourself.
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While I enjoy shooting true pistol(actual pellet pistol, not pifles) FT it's not something that will be allowed during worlds. The rules state that there are no side shoots allowed during the competition. Of course in the days leading up to, and after the event you can do as you please.
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I appreciate you guys weighing in, I don't know the competition game well enough yet. Out here (Cali) the shoots are always limited to .22 max. I called one club and asked about this and was told the .25 are to hard on the silhouettes? At a couple FT events I attended I asked and was told the .25 has to much trajectory to be competitive. The .25 is some what of a bastard in that it's limited (other than EBR events) to shooting events, it's not considered a "big bore" yet seems more and more shooters are using that caliber. A couple of us are actually talking about hosting a fun day as ANG suggests. Maybe we will call it the 2bits shoot! LOL
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"Of course in the days leading up to, and after the event you can do as you please."
That's the plan, John. Apparently the venue being considered for 2021 Worlds is available two weekends in a row during the preferred season; so some forum posters (including me, of course) are considering staging a Pistol, Open Rifle, and American-style Hunter Rifle event the weekend before Worlds... to expose the rest of the world to American FT decadence!
That's the plan, John. Apparently the venue being considered for 2021 Worlds is available two weekends in a row during the preferred season; so some forum posters (including me, of course) are considering staging a Pistol, Open Rifle, and American-style Hunter Rifle event the weekend before Worlds... to expose the rest of the world to American FT decadence!
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How many non posters are involved? The hubub died down a couple months ago on AGW. If other parties are moving forward with hosting responsibilities it would be nice to know.
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Ummmm... my crystal ball isn't giving me any insight whatsoever on the question of how many non-posters are involved, John. But I (also) noticed the enthusiasm about the centrally-located venue seemed to evaporate once it was discovered that venue is indeed available in Fall, 2021. Not surprising.
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I think the that trying to find a venue before forming a committee or board to handle the responsabilities of hosting a worlds event was a bit ambitious. Also how can you come up with a budget to know if you can afford said venue if you don't know how many shooters will be attending? These are only a few of the questions to be answered before any location can be considered.
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To paraphrase your points as I interpret them John, "which came first, the chicken or the egg?", and "you shouldn't put the cart before the horse". What I'm getting at is I think there may be some combination of apathy, confusion and (possibly) power-struggle that takes for granted the two-year window of opportunity to prepare for 2021 Worlds is ample to allow for a leisurely approach (procrastination).
More specific to your last post, I think the first order of business should be figuring out AAFTA's role(s) in Worlds and preparations for same, including both weekend events (WFTF, and Pistol/Open/American Hunter). Since I'm stuck in the cliche' file (again), to what degree will AAFTA "lead, follow, or get out of the way"? Once that is decided, then, and only then, can preparations proceed in earnest (with a lot less confusion).
Perhaps when (if) I get time enough, I'll draft a letter to the BoG to check their pulse on some of these points. Wish me luck... or perhaps, Godspeed!
More specific to your last post, I think the first order of business should be figuring out AAFTA's role(s) in Worlds and preparations for same, including both weekend events (WFTF, and Pistol/Open/American Hunter). Since I'm stuck in the cliche' file (again), to what degree will AAFTA "lead, follow, or get out of the way"? Once that is decided, then, and only then, can preparations proceed in earnest (with a lot less confusion).
Perhaps when (if) I get time enough, I'll draft a letter to the BoG to check their pulse on some of these points. Wish me luck... or perhaps, Godspeed!
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Hey Ron. What i was told by the BOG at Nats was that they will not hinder anyone from putting together or organizing Worlds. Also at the time the feeling I got from what members were there are that they don't want a direct role in organizing the event. Attitudes may have changed but it's not likely. I'll start a different thread so the Ops original post doesn't go further off topic.
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I had not noticed that.
There might be "Nothing under .25" shoots, but I don't see much reason to do so.
AAFTA matches in the USA allows .25 caliber for pistol, and any caliber for rifle, but there are FPE limits.
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There is American field target at extreme bench rest. Longer ranges out to 100 yards. They also have other long range events that big bore air rifles are used. http://www.extremebenchrest.com/american-field-target-rules/
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