O-ring Phobia?

IMHO, I don't think that all the "o-ring phobia" I read about is justified.

If used in their intended environment, static o-rings will do their job for a very long time - even decades.

O-rings in a dynamic application (that interface with moving/rotating parts will) have a reasonable service life if properly maintained (lubricated) but will eventually need to be replaced. No big deal, it's routine maintenance. Do it yourself if you are so inclined or have a specialist do it.

In some special applications (like in a Weihrauch) the gland (groove) is designed to "crush" the o-ring and it must be replaced every time that interface is opened.

An o-ring can fail prematurely if the gland was not properly designed, the incorrect size/type of o-ring was used or it was damaged during assembly. Installation over sharp edges can scar the o-ring and improper lubrication can damage it. Other than that they just work as intended.

From what I've seen, most o-ring failures can be traced back to user abuse.

Exceeding design pressure limits can deform an o-ring pushing it out of place. Exposing an o-ring to extreme temperatures, harsh chemicals/solvents or abrasive materials can cause catastrophic failure or latent damage that shows up as a slow leak.

Filling a PCP to maximum pressure then leaving it in a car parked in the sun is potentially harmful to the airgun. Inside the car, temperatures can get high enough to make metal too hot to hold comfortably, exceeding the working range of the o-rings. The heat can cause the pressures in the reservoir to increase making life for an o-ring more difficult.

At the opposite end, extremely cold conditions could cause o-rings to become brittle though I don't think this is a big concern.

Within normal operating temperatures, the o-rings are happy to do their thing and expansion/contraction of joints is not a problem.

There's a whole list of factors to be considered when choosing a PCP. For me, the number of o-rings doesn't matter, the designer used what was needed. PCPs, being HPA systems use o-rings, if you don't like o-rings, then a springer might be better choice for you. 🙂

Just my 2 cents.

Cheers!
 
Very seldom do i see o-rings extruding outside there containment grooves. Dynamic positions are the more common issue areas ( regs, balanced valve poppets etc )
Common issue is the o-rings either breaking down getting gooey soft ( Kinda Common with Poly ) or plasticizing ( hardening ) losing there elasticity and ability to shape shift as pressures on them rise and fall.
I do see with Long Term HP stored PCP's is the o-rings becoming in the shape of the containment groove ( Squarish ) and then hardening in that shape which requires fracturing the plasticized ring and carefully pulling it out.
These can be a real challenge as they won't move or bend requiring careful cutting w/o damaging the containment groove/sealing surfaces & taken out typically is small sub pieces.

While I kinda agree with OP ... as a service tech ... sorta don't agree too :unsure:
 
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Very seldom do i see o-rings extruding outside there containment grooves. Dynamic positions are the more common issue areas ( regs, balanced valve poppets etc )
Common issue is the o-rings either breaking down getting gooey soft ( Kinda Common with Poly ) or plasticizing ( hardening ) losing there elasticity and ability to shape shift as pressures on them rise and fall.
I do see with Long Term HP stored PCP's is the o-rings becoming in the shape of the containment groove ( Squarish ) and then hardening in that shape which requires fracturing the plasticized ring and carefully pulling it out.
These can be a real challenge as they won't move or bend requiring careful cutting w/o damaging the containment groove/sealing surfaces & taken out typically is small sub pieces.

While I kinda agree with OP ... as a service tech ... sorta don't agree too :unsure:

I've resealed a number of PCPs for friends but nowhere as many as a professional service tech like yourself has. Thanks for your input Motorhead!

I have seen o-rings that were exposed to harsh chemicals (firearm bore cleaners) that became gooey and resealed a couple of PCPs that started leaking after being exposed to excessively high pressures or temperatures. I'm just trying to raise awareness of what could cause problems.

The point of my post is that o-rings are a necessary part of every PCP and under normal use they do their job well. There has been a number of posts where people are showing unnecessary concerns about the reliability of o-rings (counting o-rings seems to have become a new hobby LOL!).

True that an o-ring is a possible point of failure and that o-rings subject to friction will wear out and need replacing but it's kinda like servicing the brakes on the car when needed. I don't think it's such a negative thing that should make people avoid PCPs.

Cheers!
 
Could not say anything bad about o-rings in my pcps. I keep em well lubricated, especially the rings around the "chamber" and whose which sit on the loading-pin or inside the pellet-ramp.

Use only a little bit of silicone-grease to keep them healthy (if its nbr).

Never had an issue with them.

For my part i think its easier to store all maintaince o-rings for my pcp's than have to store springs, pistons, piston heads and such for spring airguns.

And if you have one of this "o-ring" spare boxes which has different sizes in it, you can maybe repair even an pcp which is very old or if there are no spare parts available.
 
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